Israel Genocide in Gaza - 2023 to present - Part ll

[Falcon29]

Which is why I was always critical of this nonsense peace deal which was always a joint Israeli and US creation that did not address any of the underlining problems at play (plight of Palestinians, Palestinian statehood, Palestinian unity government etc.) The only reason why I supported it begrudgingly was because it stopped the genocide but even that turned out to be a false thing, as I an many others feared, because Israel has broken the deal on numerous occasions and some 350 Palestinians have been killed since the deal was signed.

I always found it incredibly strange why the hordes of pro-Egyptian regime Egyptians/bots online were hailing this useless summit in Egypt this much and why they were trying to create a narrative of "everything being fine soon" and acting like Israel/US were reigned in.

While it was always painfully clear that this entire peace deal was only brokered because Israel was losing the propaganda war and losing sympathy among even average Americans. If you read all the points, outside of lack of expulsion of Gazans, it reads like a surrender document and is purely pro-Israel/US in nature.

It only served its role as something that could end the genocide (proven not to even be the case) but outside of that is is completely useless because it does not tackle the main underlining and most important topics, namely how to achieve a lasting just peace and how to and when to create a Palestinian state.

Disarming Hamas and other militant factions and creating a US/Israel controlled Palestinian faction completely beholden to Israel/West, is just creating another West Bank which is slowly eaten up by illegal Israeli settlements while we speak.

I don't know how any serious Muslim or Arab leadership (in particular the supposed 3-4 guarantors of this deal) could sign such a thing, unless the alternative was much worse.

Yet to make any sense to me but maybe I am missing everything and completely clueless, could be the case.

I would give a more detailed response but I'm too stressed out by the situation in Gaza. It's a terrible feeling. Can't imagine how Sudanese people feel either.

Imo, Egypt is really worried of this spilling over and to them they see it as a super stressful dilemma if they get into it which may push them into a war. Egyptians are panicking in my opinion because they feel alone in this situation so they were desperate for something to bring about peace.

Israeli's and the US are deceiving and disrespecting the entire Arab and Muslim world. Honestly these RSF guys instead of killing Sudanese they should be unleashed on Israel it appears they're good at killing. They'd help scare Israel.

 

[Falcon29]

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We need to make an example out of Israel, the people there need to be brutally killed and carpet bombed in the millions to warn anyone in the future from greatly destablizing an entire region out of a fascistic satanic bloodlust

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[Falcon29]

I gotta get out of America before God burns this place to the ground

America is on the verge of a divine destruction

Wish there was a way to get residency in an Arab nation

 

[_Arabia_]

We need to make an example out of Israel, the people there need to be brutally killed and carpet bombed in the millions to warn anyone in the future from greatly destablizing an entire region out of a fascistic satanic bloodlust

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I agree. Many more October 7th's need to occur all over Israel because hard power seems to be the only medicine against those Jews/israelis by large. They appear not to be able to change their animalistic conduct and obsession with killing, occupation etc. Their entire society is heavily radicalized. Even the so-called opposition is all in favor of the current madness. It is a sick society by large.

Most importantly and most regrettably, since I do not believe that most Americans support this madness, they (Jews) have gained control of the US and are now serving Jewish/israeli interests and hijacking the region.

The Abraham Accords is not real or a real movement. It is forceful coercion and pressure of war/invasions. No sane leadership, even those we assume to be pro-Israel, would willingly award Israel after this genocide and their overall behavior nor the entire timing of it. Something is completely off here. It does not make sense to me at all.

The almost unanimous Muslim support (regimes) for this "peace deal" similarly.

Something is going totally mad in this world of late and Palestine/Gaza is not the only place.

So many wars/conflicts no longer make any sense and I believe that it is only going to be worse in the future. We are reaching a very dangerous era which AI is also going to further accelerate.

People as a whole are also behaving more strangely and God/religion is losing relevancy everywhere step by step. It is a very sad development with increased state nationalism, tech obsession and less focus on kinship and potential cooperation between people as a whole.

I think that we might be approaching the qiyamah and I would not put it past humans to somehow (not long from now, could be 2-3 generations) kickstart some global nuclear war that could end all of humanity and destroy the entire planet.

Just wait until the decline of the US fully accelerates and they will be overtaken by China, this will not go down peacefully. Taiwan too. It could get very ugly very quickly.

The divide between rich and poor is only increasing everywhere and if this continues it is not going to end well either regardless of continent and region.

I try to be positive and always hope for the best among people (by large) but I can no longer deny this inner feeling that I have of things only getting worse from now and somehow the world having seen its best days. Or that things are not going to get better in the future despite better tech, living conditions etc. overall. I hope that I am completely wrong but I feel that many have this feeling as well but don't want to admit it or talk about it openly. Maybe this is part of the problem.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

But you yourself are an opponent, heavily critical of the Islamic Republic of Iran (regime) so why this double standard? Iranians, in particular the large secular, anti-Muslim and anti-Arab segment of Iranian society, are also the biggest supporters of Israel in the region. All those famous Iranian political figures in the diaspora are all pro-Israel (heavily). Even your former Crown Prince. Most Iranians even on this forum, from what I have seen, want nothing to do with this conflict.

My previous reply to you is purely based on ground realities and just a counter (mirror) to your post about Arabs which is not serious in nature.

"Independent Arabs". Every country, at the end of the day, are independent in one way or another or to a smaller or greater extent.

Even those few Arab regimes that have opened up official relations with Israel, they are not doing it out of love of Israel but either due to selfish geopolitical (state) reasons, in order to retain cordial ties with US/West and also in many ways in order to hope to sway/influence Israelis directly in the right direction because throughout history, since at least 1948, the previous policy of no ties and open hostility, did not amount to much on the ground. Israel is only getting stronger and gaining more ground (illegal settlements) whether we like it or not.

But sure personally I disagree with this policy but many other majority Muslim nations (non-Arab) have long ago recognized Israel and enjoyed benefits from it from Asia, Africa, Europe etc.

The harsh reality is that Israel is untouchable (largely) as long as they are armed with nukes and enjoy unconditional US/Western support which this genocide has confirmed once again. No single Muslim state can defeat them militarily as things stand right now. It would require (today) some kind of genuine Muslim/anti-Israeli regional coalition and for Muslims to also be armed with nuclear weapons in order to create parity with the West/Israel.

The only solution (long term) is for Arabs and Muslims as a whole to develop their separate countries and peoples and focus on economics, technology. Especially as long as military and economic power matters the most (probably never going to change as this was always the case throughout history) in this jungle that we call a world. That and some kind of semblance of unity within the overall region, which for various reasons, is far from happening yet unlike the Europeans who learned from WW1, WW2, Cold War etc the hard way.

Although there are improvements in this regard lately and I believe that the young generation is seeing the faults of previous generations and trying to learn from them. Once more of them reach power this will be reflected on the ground.

We have no pro-israelism, it's almost non-existent. The 12 day war showed a stunning unity among Iranians, it cuts through regions, languages, ethnicities, religions.

This surprised even the zionist crowd. You know why they were surprised? the exiled zionists like son of shah and the zionists themselves were busy creating this false image which you typed above and even you might have been misled by them!

Yes some Iranians are tired of being the only few of the powers which clashes with USA and fights with Israel and getting sanctioned by west because of our independent policy (Russia, Venezuela, Cuba and few others know this well), while everyone else doesnt care. But this doesnt translate into liking Israel or loving USA.

I fully agree about regional cooperation, but I've not really seen major steps. I think the American presence in the region just doesnt allow West Asia to be independent and stable. But we might see a change, todays world is very unpredictable, it could happen that the situation turns in 5 or 10 years!

 

[Falcon29]

I agree. Many more October 7th's need to occur all over Israel because hard power seems to be the only medicine against those Jews/israelis by large. They appear not to be able to change their animalistic conduct and obsession with killing, occupation etc. Their entire society is heavily radicalized. Even the so-called opposition is all in favor of the current madness. It is a sick society by large.

Most importantly and most regrettably, since I do not believe that most Americans support this madness, they (Jews) have gained control of the US and are now serving Jewish/israeli interests and hijacking the region.

The Abraham Accords is not real or a real movement. It is forceful coercion and pressure of war/invasions. No sane leadership, even those we assume to be pro-Israel, would willingly award Israel after this genocide and their overall behavior nor the entire timing of it. Something is completely off here. It does not make sense to me at all.

The almost unanimous Muslim support (regimes) for this "peace deal" similarly.

Something is going totally mad in this world of late and Palestine/Gaza is not the only place.

So many wars/conflicts no longer make any sense and I believe that it is only going to be worse in the future. We are reaching a very dangerous era which AI is also going to further accelerate.

Very well said. Imo, the US is going mad. It's people are radacilized and severely mentally ill. People are angry over work, health, lack of fulfilling social relationships, and many people are just power tripping any way they could due to being sick in the head. The USA is a lost cause and I mean it. It's not going to survive another 5 years, maximum 10 years.

The people are far beyond saving and will continue to be radacilized. There's a lot of tension in the air because they keep consuming propaganda to hate the 'other'. I see it every day.

Many people are also angry over living costs particularly housing/rent and despite working harder to get their wages up, costs of living keeps going up so they run out of money paying bills each month. Most are truly living paycheck to paycheck. But instead of revolting over this , they just consume hate filled propaganda.

I have a reason to believe the government is purposefully feeding them lots of that to keep them distracted and channel their energy outwards. The government itself is probably worried about the mental state of Americans.

Best thing for me is to prepare to get out of here as it's a depressing, negative and toxic society that's reaching it's boiling point. I just don't know how to get into an Arab nation and live there permanently.

 

[_Arabia_]

We have no pro-israelism, it's almost non-existent. The 12 day war showed a stunning unity among Iranians, it cuts through regions, languages, ethnicities, religions.

This surprised even the zionist crowd. You know why they were surprised? the exiled zionists like son of shah and the zionists themselves were busy creating this false image which you typed above and even you might have been misled by them!

Yes some Iranians are tired of being the only few of the powers which clashes with USA and fights with Israel and getting sanctioned by west because of our independent policy (Russia, Venezuela, Cuba and few others know this well), while everyone else doesnt care. But this doesnt translate into liking Israel or loving USA.

I fully agree about regional cooperation, but I've not really seen major steps. I think the American presence in the region just doesnt allow West Asia to be independent and stable.

Well believe it or not, even though I have been critical of the Iranian regime role in the Arab world by large (never made a secret of it and always played with open cards like with everything else), I don't have any animosity against the average Iranian regardless of ethnicity or religion or viewpoints. As long as they are not hostile to us Arabs which most ordinary Iranians are not just like most ordinary Arabs are not hostile to Iranians. There are many ties from culture, linguistics, religion, geography, cuisine, ancestry/genetics, looks, civilizational cooperation, people to people, ethnicities etc. between Iran and the Arab world in particular Arabia and Iraq next door. List is long.

Besides even if the situation was like that between Papuans and Eskimos (hardly anything in common outside of ordinary human connection or the fact that almost all humans are identical by large DNA wise when compared to any other living organism - and all related, as confirmed by DNA and most religious viewpoints/philosophies), long-term the region needs to develop in a similar manner as Europe did after WW1, WW2, Cold War and start to finally benefit from each other mutually and regain trust/do not start senseless conflicts.

I will end it at that but I try to be positive in this regard but it is hard to predict the future and much can change for better or worse but personally, in a perfect world, I do not want to be involved in any wars or conflicts if this can be avoided.

Main problem right now is US facilitation and Israeli behavior and local idiotic civil wars fueled by local retards. Sudan is a good and sad examples of recent allies, who both removed the Transitional Government in Sudan back in 2021 (coup basically) and who are now killing each other and fighting for control of all of Sudan.

Problem in the region might be authoritarian rule, lack of power-sharing agreements, lack of trust and a zero-sum game. Basically everything that Europe was not long ago.

Because the average people of the region do not behave like the in real life but are some of the most welcoming, hospitable and largely kind people out there. Many foreigners from across the planet attest to this.

Anyway ending it here.

 

[Falcon29]

Who would've thought the official government of the USA would tweet about its own American media outlets this way.

These people are going to start killing each other, most certainly by 2028 election they will.

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[Falcon29]

Israel + the US lure Hamas into helping them recover the Israeli POWs and lure them into a false sense of security

Then start targeting Hamas members a few days later and repeat the same pattern

Once the remaining bodies are received, they'll use the 'Hamas isn't disarming excuse' and do same thing. Have Hamas come out from underground (not literally), collect intelligence, then target them

Hamas will catch onto the pattern and go back underground. After which US and Israel will resume ground assault on Gaza to ethnically cleanse the population

It's all a setup but there's nothing the Palestinain can do

 

[Falcon29]

Israel in Lebanon targets Hezbollah members alone

In Gaza, it targets entire families it deems 'Hamas supporters' or not anti -Palestinian enough

It even massacred entire civilian families that refused to steal aid on Israel's behalf

Israel is a fascistic nation out of control

 

[Falcon29]

Every low self esteem loser in America is power tripping by cheering on a foreign nation committing a Holocaust

Low self esteem people need to be put in camps to learn how to accept their flaws and not cope with narcassism

This is the only way they get attention -- by being evil

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[Falcon29]

The killing has intensified against the Muslims, as if they were sacrificial animals on the day of Eid, slaughtered and killed by the infidels and criminals while they laugh and jest!!

There is no god but Allah, and Allah is sufficient for us, and He is the best disposer of affairs.

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lol

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