Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[RescueRanger]

Nope. With-in a few weeks into the actual war, Pakistan will surely lob a few nuclear tipped toys at India

I dont know about such things. My understanding of nuclear warfare or naval warfare or aerial warfare is the same as my knowledge on nuclear medicine which is to say limited at best - hence I stay way from such discussions.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Will not be a war with Afghans.

Bombing people from 40,000 feet and reducing buildings to rubble is not war, its target practice.

But that bleeds us financially. Those bombs / missiles. Per hour flight costs, whole operations are way too expensive. Those bombs and every single bullet had to be used against india or reserved for that front. We need a quick smarter solution. Now we have stirred the pot, we need to find alliance / proxy in afghanistan and increase our intelligence foot print.

BTW, that war not only bleeds us financially we are also losing many soldiers. Soldiers life is precious anyways but someone here also had posted that we spend millions on each soldier from training to family's welfare etc. on other hand TTA / TTP may recruit someone in 100 dollars. So this war is not sustainable for us in anyways. We can't drain ourselves and our resources against afg. If we throw our entire conventional arsenal over afghanistan even then there will be millions of recruits ready to cross border. There are over 30,000 towns in AFG, we don't even have enough missiles or bombs to take care of that large country. People don't realize the geography & demographics involve in this afghan problem.

Someone said use nukes. Well, even Israel didn't used nukes against Gazans. World will put massive sanctions and may join together against our nukes. Secondly, even nukes can't finish an entire population. Nukes are out of question. Only solution is intelligence brilliance. ISI needs to be put at test. They need to inflitrate enemy ranks and implode the TTP structure, send coordinates and we keep hitting the top leadership with pure success. I don't think we have eliminated anyone in top 10 TTP commanders in last 4,5 months. Secondly, we need a group in Afghanistan that is not ultra religious and somewhat not anti-pakistan (which is really hard to find anyways).. The northern alliance were more anti-pakisatn then afghan talibs. The amrullah saleh brags online about hurting Pakistan and destabilizing it. Our best bet was to find a win-win solution with talibs and some how get those talib idiots understand a better relation / partnership but unfortunately that didn't happened.

 

[ziaulislam]

he is funing should be directed at the retarts of PTI, who favoured the tea and the rehablitation of TTP.
why this selective criticism? share any PTI leader criticising Gen Faiz love for Taliban? back then the army was on the same page with PTI right?

all this so called peace that PTI propogates was used (as before) by TTP to rearm and reorganise and get ready for next attacks. his right to fume is just a public performance.

This isn't a PTi issue every party including PMLN and PPPP will en against an operation in any city that will create millions of dispalced people for decade without any funding for reconstruction especially if rest of provinces block movement of people

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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Wtf Talibunds are just wasting time here.

 

[Mav3rick]

But how will you sustain it? The US pumped in trillions and stayed there for 20 years, arming and training anti-Taliban forces. Took the Taliban a few days to take everything back when the US left.

There is a big difference between then and now. Pakistan!

 

[ziaulislam]

Snd bullshit continue lol

130K views · 5.6K reactions | د طالبانو او د پاکستان د امنیتي ځواکونو ترمنځ تیره اوونۍ تر نښتو وروسته لا هم لارې بندې دي. د طالبانو ویاند ذبیح الله مجاهد وایي چې پاکستان او افغانستان »یو او بل ته ضرورت لري چې هېڅوک یې هم باید د احسان په توګه ونه کار

د طالبانو او د پاکستان د امنیتي ځواکونو ترمنځ تیره اوونۍ تر نښتو وروسته لا هم لارې بندې دي. د طالبانو ویاند ذبیح الله مجاهد وایي چې پاکستان او افغانستان »یو او بل ته ضرورت لري چې هېڅوک یې هم باید د...

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[ziaulislam]

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Wtf Talibunds are just wasting time here.

They thought Pakistan would buge, the bluff didnt played out

AFGHANISTAN wont have food without Pakistan issue is lack of infrastructure to connect iranian ports to major cities and all the fruit market is Pakistan

It would be devastating for kpk economy as well that relies on afghan trade and services(health care etc)but its win win for federal govt tackle both pti and Afghanistan at same time

 

[Pak Defender]

We lost 5 more soldiers today in another ambush.

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We don't care if they follow ceasefire or not but we follow it because we are very peace loving nation.

 

[VectorZero]

We lost 5 more soldiers today in another ambush.

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lets hold more talks our soldiers life does not matter 2 attacks in 2 days. where is payback?

 

[MapleKing]

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Wtf Talibunds are just wasting time here.

They are playing games. Bleed them without acknowledging.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

But how will you sustain it? The US pumped in trillions and stayed there for 20 years, arming and training anti-Taliban forces. Took the Taliban a few days to take everything back when the US left.

This is the main factor! 300,000 afghan army vanished over night as Taliban were such a overwhelming and unopposed force in Afghanistan.

Our strategy needs to understand this. We just can't waste our ammo against a country of unlimited recruits. We need military + intelligence + diplomatic solution.

Intelligence solutions can find innovative ways and not only finding the top enemy leaderships. For-example, they can create a diversion and can even make Iran-Afghanistan border hot. Make them busy elsewhere.

OR if we want full scale hot border then we need to fix our finances and then we can keep bombing Kabul and hope that Taliban will bow down against our firepower.

 

[Pak Defender]

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Walk the talk now

After Khawaja Asif statement this is their reply.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

They thought Pakistan would buge, the bluff didnt played out

AFGHANISTAN wont have food without Pakistan issue is lack of infrastructure to connect iranian ports to major cities and all the fruit market is Pakistan

It would be devastating for kpk economy as well that relies on afghan trade and services(health care etc)but its win win for federal govt tackle both pti and Afghanistan at same time

Afghanis will survive, they will get food from elsewhere. But more expensive and no smuggling. Making their population even more poorer if that is possible.

KPK will learn to produce things instead of relying on Afghan smuggling rackets and middlemen traders. Huge potential for investment in KPK once terrorism end.

 

[Master Chief]

Any peace deal with Pakistan means no more funds from India for Taliban. A stable Afghanistan means the same to them, money from anti-Pakistan countries. However, China/Russia/USA could potentially invest in Afghanistan, if it was stable. An unstable Afghanistan profits every faction, from TTA to TTP to AQ to IS.

Brilliant summary of the underlying facts.

 

[r3alist]

I dont know about such things. My understanding of nuclear warfare or naval warfare or aerial warfare is the same as my knowledge on nuclear medicine which is to say limited at best - hence I stay way from such discussions.

Very well said


to my original hypothetical question


As absolute numbers, who is willing to fight long wars in both nations, as of today? Just wondering.