Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

POTUS yes! now he is of no consequences! right !

just read what you said - who the hell are you? a no-body! he is POTUS of worlds strongest Armed Forces!

it will be a sight when he will stand with Modi on podium and will re-iterate numbers of kills scored by PAF.

Pure Horror Show! Then what Modi going to do? Indians will a new planet to hide in!

i don't know man, the west always sided with india for all the attacks on Pakistan initially so lets not gloat on this perhaps before seeing what trump actually does.

Trump is on a mission to get more money for his dying/crumbling american empire.......US Govt has shutdown, and things are not looking good....its starting to affect flights at airports....whats next in usa.....they will empty every coffer they can see.
 
Sir whats your current assessment of the situation......are we looking at 2nd conflict yet or there is still time

Due to the probable new constitutional amendment the PAF is unlikely to respond as it did immediately after IAF weapons release and smoke some Rafales.
The order will come from the new chief of defense force so don't hold your breath.
 
Ofcourse, it is an outstanding aircraft - if employed well - however, what only little the IAF could achieve with this it in a 4 day war is itself injustice to the capabilities offered by this beast.

  • No air to air kills
  • Only a couple instances in A2G role
  • Got shot down in some of the longest BVR shots.

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POTUS yes! now he is of no consequences! right !

just read what you said - who the hell are you? a no-body! he is POTUS of worlds strongest Armed Forces!

it will be a sight when he will stand with Modi on podium and will re-iterate numbers of kills scored by PAF.

Pure Horror Show! Then what Modi going to do? Indians will a new planet to hide in!
Any comments on his claim of Pakistan conducting nuclear tests in the recent past? Or his comments on Pakistan being a hub of terror and stabbing US in the back? There are many more.
You want to pick and choose a few that are convenient to you?

It doesn’t work that way. It’s a whole package. No picking and choosing as per one’s convenience.
 
It is not about the relationship but selling every word out of Trump’s mouth as gospel truth.

He has changed the numbers from 4 to 8. He might add more. He is known to lie for the sake of making an arguement.

It could be any day when he gets behind Pakistan and claim a lot of s##t. Those who are celebrating him now would disown him in a breath and call him a lier. So exercise prudence now and don’t bet all your pennies on a character like this.

At the very least, one thing is near confirmed. Apart from the 4 aircrafts confirmed through open source evidence.

There is this 5th aircraft that was hit and damaged - limped back to the base somehow and got written off later on.

1. First hint was dropped by Alan Warnes when he reported about why it took more than a month for PAF to confirm 4th Rafale Kill.

2. The story was later reported by a French Media outlet mentioning that one Rafale was hit and managed to land back saving life of the pilot. Ironically, the story was celebrated across the social media by Bakhtoras with a narrative that it was the Bhatinda Rafale -- Lol.

3. Now, Trump just repeated the same story.

Now -- I really don't think, Trump takes time to read Alan Warnes / AFM or the random French Media outlets. Pertinent to note that, PAF didn't claim 4th Rafale directly, rather through Alan Warnes / AFM and after due time for obvious reasons as the verdict for write off / repair was pending --- so, it's not like he is taking PAF claims at the face value -- obviously somebody in his administration put this story about an aircraft which "got wounded badly" and later abandoned into his ears.

I mean there is a whole chain of reports pertaining to this story -- and not like one random day Trump woke up and put up what he saw in his dream last night ---

So at the very least, it makes it 5 confirmed aircrafts including 2 Rafales. Probably, that's the reason IAF still hesitates to disclose the losses -- and perhaps that's why many other sources said it's 5 aircrafts.
 
@RescueRanger ... one of the best Episodes I have seen on where and why Pakistan is where it is and how China comes in play ! Very good episode on a channel called Defense Frontline from USA.

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Of course. It was halted after Pakistan shocked you guys with their response that threw you guys off your chairs. Don't need pressure from anyone to let you Indians know you bit off more than you could chew.
 
At the very least, one thing is near confirmed. Apart from the 4 aircrafts confirmed through open source evidence.

There is this 5th aircraft that was hit and damaged - limped back to the base somehow and got written off later on.

1. First hint was dropped by Alan Warnes when he reported about why it took more than a month for PAF to confirm 4th Rafale Kill.

2. The story was later reported by a French Media outlet mentioning that one Rafale was hit and managed to land back saving life of the pilot. Ironically, the story was celebrated across the social media by Bakhtoras with a narrative that it was the Bhatinda Rafale -- Lol.

3. Now, Trump just repeated the same story.

Now -- I really don't think, Trump takes time to read Alan Warnes / AFM or the random French Media outlets. Pertinent to note that, PAF didn't claim 4th Rafale directly, rather through Alan Warnes / AFM and after due time for obvious reasons as the verdict for write off / repair was pending --- so, it's not like he is taking PAF claims at the face value -- obviously somebody in his administration put this story about an aircraft which "got wounded badly" and later abandoned into his ears.

I mean there is a whole chain of reports pertaining to this story -- and not like one random day Trump woke up and put up what he saw in his dream last night ---

So at the very least, it makes it 5 confirmed aircrafts including 2 Rafales. Probably, that's the reason IAF still hesitates to disclose the losses -- and perhaps that's why many other sources said it's 5 aircrafts.
Can you link the French media article?
 
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Didn't bookmark it - it was in french language.
However, a quick search gives out the Indian outlets which quoted story from that source.

these indians so shameless they wrote an article about surviving

THis is like british making movie on dunkirk humiliation.
 
Didn't bookmark it - it was in french language.
However, a quick search gives out the Indian outlets which quoted story from that source.

I have read the original French article and let's just say its full of copium the author probably had the same copium dealer as the indians, I think the author pulled that initial claim out of his ass but it just happened to be coincidentally true
 
I have read the original French article and let's just say its full of copium the author probably had the same copium dealer as the indians.

The article primarily focuses on IAF deciding to go for additional 114 Rafales - more a piece of news than an Opinion.

Nevertheless, the particular claim is corroborated by Alan Warnes and now Trump.
 
I have read the original French article and let's just say its full of copium the author probably had the same copium dealer as the indians, I think the author pulled that initial claim out of his ass but it just happened to be coincidentally true


so, the pilot with the 'heroic feat' of landing a damaged jet, received any medals?!!

AFAIK, in other countries, pilots are rewarded if they save an aircraft!
 

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