AMCA vs KAAN vs KF-21 India Turkey & Korea’s Fighter Jets Battle For Air Supremacy—Who Leads The Pack? OP-ED

[wangdefa]

China is the biggest propaganda in the world
Go and make your propaganda in Chinese section with your Chinese fanboys
We dont care about China

This thread is about India , Turkiye , S.Korea ( AMCA , KAAN , KF-21 )

And I am showing what about KAAN project

What's gotten into you ? Why are you going crazy like this ?

It is not an exaggeration to say that since you said on the forum that Turkish aircraft can rival China and the United States' fifth-generation aircraft, you must prove its capabilities, after all, China and the United States are users of fifth-generation aircraft and experimenters of sixth-generation aircraft. And the fifth generation aircraft in Turkey has not yet been put into service, it is just testing, so for the latecomers, if you want to prove that you can match, you have to let others compare and question. Instead of always stopping.
If other users can't comment on the Turkish 5th generation, then what I want to say is, you have been comparing it with the Chinese and American 5th generation, how do you make others believe it? After all, we are the official users of the fifth generation machine,

 

[MMM-E]

It is not an exaggeration to say that since you said on the forum that Turkish aircraft can rival China and the United States' fifth-generation aircraft, you must prove its capabilities, after all, China and the United States are users of fifth-generation aircraft and experimenters of sixth-generation aircraft. And the fifth generation aircraft in Turkey has not yet been put into service, it is just testing, so for the latecomers, if you want to prove that you can match, you have to let others compare and question. Instead of always stopping.

What about your so-called 5th gen Fighters ?
Nobody knows quality and capability of Chinese J-20
no any combat proven

Then dont talk about KAAN

If a Chinese attacking KAAN then I have right to say my point

Read his post
"comparison of existing elite fighters. Kaan is no where match against them"

Afterall, this is the first time they tried to make the 5th- generation-like fighter. They are qualified to brag about the technology in the same level of Korea's or India's., but not necessary to bring in comparison of existing elite fighters. Kaan is no where match against them.

 

[Deino]

A Chinese Group led by DEINO terrorize thread even we are not talking about China here

Is this group managing the PDF ? What are Chinese doing here?

We don't go trolling in the Chinese section and we don't even send a single post. Enough is enough that this group is bothering us

Mr X , Musings , Waz​

As it seems, you lack a basic understanding of free speech and honest, factual discussion in bringing arguments forward discussing them against other arguments and points brought forwards by other members, who all have the same right to post like you ... and having a different, maybe even contradicting opinion is not an insult, it is not an aggression against Turkey or any other country and especially not trolling! It's just for what forums are made ... a civilised discussion on a certain matter!

If you however only want to hear "yea, Turkey is the greatest!" and anything beyond this is a affront and think only You could post whatever you want including insults, then you should reconsider why you are in a forum!

 

[Deino]

What about your so-called 5th gen Fighters ?
Nobody knows quality and capability of Chinese J-20
no any combat proven

Then dont talk about KAAN

If a Chinese attacking KAAN then I have right to say my point

Read his post
"comparison of existing elite fighters. Kaan is no where match against them"

But the J-20 - in your opinion a "so called" 5th generation fighter - is in service in several hundreds, even US sources rate it a fully capable 5th generation fighter but you demand more while on the other side Kaan is in your opinion indisputeable the ruler of the sky even if only an empty hull is flying, the true prototype is still not ready like its engines, none of its systems is ... but we should bend the knee and believe it is the best 5th generation fighter available?!

Are you nuts????

 

[wangdefa]

What about your so-called 5th gen Fighters ?
Nobody knows quality and capability of Chinese J-20
no any combat proven

Then dont talk about KAAN

If a Chinese attacking KAAN then I have right to say my point

Read his post
"comparison of existing elite fighters. Kaan is no where match against them"

Lol,Okay, man, China doesn't have fifth-generation aircraft, we only have fourth-generation aircraft, Turkey is already ahead of us, I believe the Americans also think so. Today is our Chinese Air Force holiday, so our loyal wingman and China's fourth-generation aircraft will fly together.

 

[Michael]

Lol,Okay, man, China doesn't have fifth-generation aircraft, we only have fourth-generation aircraft, Turkey is already ahead of us, I believe the Americans also think so. Today is our Chinese Air Force holiday, so our loyal wingman and China's fourth-generation aircraft will fly together.

In official PLA articles, the J-20 is indeed referred to as a 4th-Gen fighter jet, and the J-10 as a 3rd-Gen fighter jet. (They are still using the old standard.)

However, official media outlets use the new standard.

 

[Musings]

@MMM-E
Last warning before a ban. Stop insulting Mods or you will be banned

 

[MMM-E]

As it seems, you lack a basic understanding of free speech and honest, factual discussion in bringing arguments forward discussing them against other arguments and points brought forwards by other members, who all have the same right to post like you ... and having a different, maybe even contradicting opinion is not an insult, it is not an aggression against Turkey or any other country and especially not trolling! It's just for what forums are made ... a civilised discussion on a certain matter!

Free speech ? and You are trying to block my rights
My posts dont violate forum rules and I am talking about the topic ( AMCA , KAAN , KF-21 )

You and Chinese users are not here for discuss
You are trying to stop showing Turkish technologies to PDF users


Chinese are afraid of Pakistan will choise KAAN as like Indonesia buys 48 KAAN
full of Chinese users are trolling here led by DEINO

If you want to discuss , then lets discuss
stop trolling and provoking me

If you however only want to hear "yea, Turkey is the greatest!

and stop lying
I never said Turkiye is greatest or whatever

I am just showing real Turkish military projects to show other PDF users who likes my posts

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

A Chinese Group led by DEINO terrorize thread even we are not talking about China here

Is this group managing the PDF ? What are Chinese doing here?

We don't go trolling in the Chinese section and we don't even send a single post. Enough is enough that this group is bothering us

Mr X , Musings , Waz​

No one doing non stop and continous propaganda about their respective upcoming 5th gen jets Amca/KF-21 like you, no indian members are here to support their AMCA , no Indonesian members to doing propaganda about KF-21 , its only you are doing continuous and non stop propaganda about KAAN

All KAAN/AMCA/KF-21 are still in the development and testing phases

And this thread is not only about KAAN but comparing 3 jets, we have separate thread about KAAN in Turkish section

 

[MMM-E]

@MMM-E
Last warning before a ban. Stop insulting Mods or you will be banned

When and where I insulting MODS ?
Again you are doing same thing .... you taking a side for anti-Turkiye behavior

 

[Michael]

When and where I insulting MODS ?
Again you are doing same thing .... you taking a side for anti-Turkiye behavior

@Musings I think you can start now. Let's all be quiet for a moment.

 

[MMM-E]

Mr X Waz​

Please stop this Chinese Group
My posts dont violate forum rules

and MUSINGS is again doing same thing

 

[MMM-E]

But the J-20 - in your opinion a "so called" 5th generation fighter - is in service in several hundreds, even US sources rate it a fully capable 5th generation fighter but you demand more while on the other side Kaan is in your opinion indisputeable the ruler of the sky even if only an empty hull is flying, the true prototype is still not ready like its engines, none of its systems is ... but we should bend the knee and believe it is the best 5th generation fighter available?!

Are you nuts????

Go and make your J-20 propaganda in Chinese section
We are not talking about China here

This thread is about AMCA , KAAN , KF-21
Even in this condition, KAAN signed a contract to sell 48 units to Indonesia

There are dozens of other PDF users who wants to read my posts
PDF is not belong to Chinese Group

 

[Deino]

When and where I insulting MODS ?
Again you are doing same thing .... you taking a side for anti-Turkiye behavior

Shall we make screenshots to show you each of your insult that later gets deleted since it is an insult & off-topic?

 

[MMM-E]

Shall we make screenshots to show you each of your insult that later gets deleted since it is an insult & off-topic?

from 2019 2020 ?

this is 2025 and I my posts dont violate forum rules

then same Chinese gruop led you and FOINIKAS terrorized my posts and provoked me

no more your dirty game wont work
I will not say anything bad to you