An Indian Tejas fighter jet crashed during an aerial display at the Dubai Air Show

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If the pilot is disoriented and isn’t able to notice he or she is in an unrecoverable position, there is limited time to make that decision to eject. As in the following video, the pilot has to be fully aware to be able to make such a decision, with enough time to survive.

In the case of the following mig crash, the pilot saw he aircraft was not responding as he planned, and so he had to ditch.

The crash of the Tejas could be a combination of both, pilot disoriented and the jet failing to perform as predicted. Indian officials don’t want to say it’s the fault of the jet, but their own air-chief is not satisfied with the progress of the program (a culture of delays as well as over hyping what can be delivered), as well as India’s track record on maintenance of their jets as demonstrated by their excessive crashes, so they will be question on the condition of the Tejas by any potential customers such as Armenia.

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India has knowledge, they lack discipline. Pakistan is more disciplined then these people.
Having said that, I am pretty much sure the pilot passed out as the jet went into balancing mode in last moments( as it's clear from video). I think HAL needs to add one more AND in the logic

if ( pilot_is_irresponsive AND altitude_is_low) then
Eject_pilot <= true;
elsif ( pilot_is_irresponsive AND altitude_is_High) then
Perform_balancing_maneuver <= true;
end if;
 
𝐈𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐚’𝐬 𝐀𝐞𝐫𝐨𝐬𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐞 𝐏𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫: 𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐆-𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐜𝐞, 𝐋𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐁𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐜𝐞

It’s time India should stop pretending that India is an aerospace powerhouse just because LCA Tejas can pull 8G turns at airshows. For 40 years, the Tejas programme has dragged on; rebranded, relaunched, repainted but never truly reborn. Four decades for a single-engine light fighter? That’s not a development cycle. That’s a generational crisis. What India celebrates in the Tejas narrative is always the same: kinetics, thrust-to-weight ratio, angle-of-attack, G-maneuvers, the same old “look, we can turn tightly” chest-thumping.

But here’s the truth the cheerleaders refuse to acknowledge: modern air combat isn’t about how tight you can turn, it’s about how far ahead you can think. India is still stuck in a 1980s Top Gun VHS tape.

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Today’s decisive combat edge lies in:
  • Sensor fusion
  • Real-time data-links and network-centric warfare
  • Integrated electronic warfare suites
  • Seamless BVR dominance
  • Secure, jam-resistant communications
  • Multi-domain interoperability

These are the technologies that win air superiority, not acrobatics, not paint jobs, not political speeches. India’s aerospace ecosystem still struggles with basic integration maturity:

  • Indigenous AESA radars delayed and underperforming
  • BVR missiles integrated years late and software not compatible
  • No robust secure datalink ecosystem like Link-16 or MADL
  • EW capabilities that lag a generation
  • A supply chain that depends heavily on foreign vendors, while claiming “atmanirbharta”

  • And let’s not forget the jet engine dependency that remains India’s biggest strategic vulnerability. After 40 years, India still can’t build a reliable indigenous fighter engine. No sensor suite, no weapon integration, no network capability can compensate for this core weakness.The heart of fighter aviation is the engine and India still doesn’t have one. A country that aspires to 5th-gen combat capability still cannot build:

  • a reliable indigenous turbofan,
  • a high-thrust core,
  • an afterburner section that doesn’t eat itself,
  • or even a sustained high-T/W ratio engine that meets modern combat loads.

The Kaveri engine remains a national case study in how not to run R&D, thousands of crores, decades of delays, and still not a single operational fighter variant. As a result, India remains dependent on foreign engines for every “indigenous” fighter platform, including Tejas.

What does this dependency mean? That India still cannot dictate:
  • thrust class evolution
  • thermal management
  • fuel efficiency curves
  • hot-section materials
  • or afterburner signature modulation

All of which are essential for:

  • supercruise,
  • stealth shaping,
  • BVR-first engagement tactics,
  • high-altitude combat, and
  • sustained multi-sortie wartime operations.

India loves to announce aerospace breakthroughs. But announcements don’t shoot down enemy aircraft. India doesn’t need more flypasts. India needs competence.

1. Competence in systems engineering.
2. Competence in weapons integration.
3. Competence in EW, AI-enabled decision loops, and autonomous teaming.
4. Competence that takes decades of consistent, disciplined investment in R&D, not ceremony.

As long as India glorifies airshow theatrics over true combat capability, India will remain a spectator in the modern fighter era, not a leader.

It’s time to stop bragging!
Only if they could do well this sharp turning well too! Reminds me of the Bharati parents, while dropping their kids in my son's school, taking sharp turns and getting their Teslas on the sidewalk! I always do a wide turn with my old VW to show them how "geometry" works....
 
"What did the Pakistani media and (former) Pakistani pilots say on the Tejas crash? "
This is so funny.
Listen to this strange "Defense detective ". Unfortunately there are no English subtitles in the video, but some PDF members may be able to understand Hindi. Most of the video is referencing X posts by unknown persons in English on which he is lamenting. I will translate a summary.
Basically the title reads "What did the Pakistani media and (former) Pakistani pilots say on the Tejas crash? "
This guy addresses Pakistanis in Hindi when very few of us can understand what he is saying. This clown doesn't know that Hindi is not spoken in Pakistan.
He curses obscure X posts including one supposedly by Mubashar Lucman, without verifying if these are actually fake posts by Indians masquerading as Pakistanis . Any way half way through his laments he switches to praising former Pakistan Air Force personnel who have expressed regret on the death of the Tejas pilot. Then at the end of the video he grudgingly acknowledges that hate is a two way process and Indians have been displaying hate and celebrating when Pakistani aircraft have crashed. He asks for the hate to stop.
Don't know if anyone got his message.

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or the malfunction happened the exact time, pilot tried his best to get back the control but Tejas refused to follow command.

Can be anything, right???
Control systems, by marrying electronic systems to mechanical ones, is always very challenging! One is from the Mars, and the other one is from the Venice! There's no "reset" for mechanical systems. You fail with the "theory of mechanics", which may disown you any time of the day due to a plethora of "environmental and ambient" reasons, and you're dead....

Mechatronics is no "Java" programing for "social media"....
 
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Interesting video.
 
I see a lots of lolly jolly fruity comments by Pakistanis as Indians are peaceful civilized warrior nation.

Abbai, given the chance and opportunity, they Will obliterate you in a blink of eyes.

What do you think the intention of "operation sindoor" was? Having picnic over pak sky. Baat karta hai?
 
I see a lots of lolly jolly fruity comments by Pakistanis as Indians are peaceful civilized warrior nation.

Abbai, given the chance and opportunity, they Will obliterate you in a blink of eyes.

What do you think the intention of "operation sindoor" was? Having picnic over pak sky. Baat karta hai?

Well im glad someone finally said it and it wasn't me. People living in lala land wanting to hold hands- Kashmir, Palestine (other conflicts are available) should teach us, the only language an enemy that aims to dehumanise, damage and destabilise Pakistan understands is overwhelming force.

See where holding hands got the Palestinians.
 
Well im glad someone finally said it and it wasn't me. People living in lala land wanting to hold hands- Kashmir, Palestine (other conflicts are available) should teach us, the only language an enemy that aims to dehumanise, damage and destabilise Pakistan understands is overwhelming force.

See where holding hands got the Palestinians.
I have heard in USA even the Evangelical Christians are now united against Israel.

People are waking up now.
 
Well im glad someone finally said it and it wasn't me. People living in lala land wanting to hold hands- Kashmir, Palestine (other conflicts are available) should teach us, the only language an enemy that aims to dehumanise, damage and destabilise Pakistan understands is overwhelming force.

See where holding hands got the Palestinians.
The thing about Kashmir dispute is that there is supposed to be a plebiscite.

This is what the partition plan says and it is reaffirmed in the United Nations resolutions.

India cleverly evades this. They will get their punishment one day for evading this.
 
Well im glad someone finally said it and it wasn't me. People living in lala land wanting to hold hands- Kashmir, Palestine (other conflicts are available) should teach us, the only language an enemy that aims to dehumanise, damage and destabilise Pakistan understands is overwhelming force.

See where holding hands got the Palestinians.
My simple thought
آپ تمیز کا دامن نا چھوڑیں

ان کنجروں کو کیا فرق پڑتا ہے
 
The thing about Kashmir dispute is that there is supposed to be a plebiscite.

This is what the partition plan says and it is reaffirmed in the United Nations resolutions.

India cleverly evades this. They will get their punishment one day for evading this.
The Kashmir dispute is no longer the prime cause of enmity between India and Pakistan.
Lots of other excuses will be generated for a conflict: Sir Creek, Indus Water Treaty, Terrorism, Recovery of Pakistan Administered Kashmir, air routes and over flights, Beef and cow slaughter, Atrocities on "Minorities", Protection of Salt Range Temples, Hinglaj Mata Shrine. etc,
An excuse WILL be found for war, An existential war is being waged on Pakistan. The very existence of Pakistan, and Muslims in the subcontinent is a cause for war.
Hate to sound gloomy, but there will NEVER be peace and an ultimate war of annihilation of Pakistan WILL be launched. The choice is between mutual annihilation or nuclear martyrdom, and slavery, oppression and a forced conversion.
 
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