PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[VCheng]

The Mullah has vanished, of course.

No, that mullah is still available at 1-800-RENT-A-MULLAH, like all the others, and waiting for his next phone from the GHQ. He was paid off to do what he did, just like the envelopes of cash were distributed when IK was being pushed onto center stage.

IK cultists cannot fathom that their great leader was a phony when he was installed, and still a phony when he was removed.

It is okay, since reality speaks for itself.

And just to be clear , SS and the present setup is not any different either. That is just the next act in the same circus.

 

[Cipher212]

You are right in general. But I am not sure if those brainless idiots (that I mentioned, especially bajwa) were following the institutional policy or pursuing their own interests. It's indeed institution's responsibility to investigate and punish the culprits.

Let's hope that the institution has learned a good lesson from their dis-service to Pakistan by imposing the filth in Pakistan that brought so much harm and polarization into the country.

This is like praying a snake does not bite you.

 

[imadul]

The list of Imran's follies! Keep adding to them. Even yesterday, many analysts were wondering why the partial boycott of the recent byelections by PTI. One cited when MQM boycotted elections and that enabled Jamat e Islami to regain some of its lost territory in Karachi by contesting the elections and doing actual work.
This boycott was another feather in Imran's thick skull hat. Imran is really an arrogant dumb a$$.

.. yeah, but other side of the game, he is inarcerated and not in the position to form a strategy.
Once a blunder is done, it is just a slippery slope.

 

[imadul]

That is all in the past. What happens next is the only important thing.

Correct but some mistakes keep producing odd offsprings.
Just for the sake of "no one would care listening" he has to change course which is to negotiate with army, head down and bid time.

 

[imadul]

which goes to show that problem is within us that make this system and feed this system . there will never be a fair trial of anyone it will be polticially motivated or based on revenge.

- 20% = 80% correct
My only 2 and half pasia, WE don't have any say in the system and matters.
Some may have, who are part of "whatever" we call it, rest effectively disenfranchised.
This catharsis will continue...
I think, we need to focus more on SINDOR 2.0 now.
Someone should open new thread. Brand new thread about inevitable SINDOR 2.0. if Pakistan army can settle the score once and for all, I can accept a military dictatorship for 10 years.

 

[VCheng]

Correct but some mistakes keep producing odd offsprings.
Just for the sake of "no one would care listening" he has to change course which is to negotiate with army, head down and bid time.

It is up to IK to decide on his future course. I will respect his right to decide whatever he wishes for himself as he sees fit.

 

[Forsvaret]

Or bring back Saqib Nisar courts, so PTI can be satisfied.

Or bring back Qazi Isa courts, so PDM can be satisfied. And your point is?

 

[Forsvaret]

Just look at his rise and fall already…

And exactly what "fall" are you talking about here?

 

[Forsvaret]

Yes, the relationships with USA, KSA and China are extremely important for Pakistan and I think he managed to pi$$ off all three to varying degrees.

Yeah. Pissing off Pakistan’s foreign masters by pursuing policies that hurt their vested interests in Pakistan was a "bad" thing.

 

[Meengla]

.. yeah, but other side of the game, he is inarcerated and not in the position to form a strategy.
Once a blunder is done, it is just a slippery slope.

Sir, he had several months leading the NCM vote and then a full year after he was ousted to make a 'strategy' but he didn't make good choices while he was the PM in the months before the NCM vote nor in the year after his ouster where he was free, had the megaphone for his 'narrative' building.
And just now, despite his party veterans' appeals, he made another terrible choice by largely boycotting the by-elections. It is well understood by now in Pakistani politics to not let your opposition have a free hit despite the odds by boycotting the elections and yet he ignored his advisors again! Benazir Bhutto lamented her party's boycott of the 1985 elections till decades later, as did MQM when they gave the ground to Jamat e Islami.
There is so much credit we can give to a dimwit. Only so much.

 

[VCheng]

And exactly what "fall" are you talking about here?

Exactly? Like this:

Rise: To PM of a nuclear power.
Fall: To a convicted criminal in jail.

Is that precise enough for you or would you like to argue about these as well?

 

[Forsvaret]

This boycott was another feather in Imran's thick skull hat.

So when IK want PTI to contest in elections and that election gets stolen by military establishment, you’re not happy. And when IK does not want PTI to contest in elections because they get stolen by military establishment, you’re still not happy.

 

[Forsvaret]

Rise: To PM of a nuclear power.

But as per you and your ilk, IK’s rise to power had absolutely nothing to do with his own contribution. He was actually catapulted into power by the military establishment.

Fall: To a convicted criminal in jail.

Same here as above; you and your ilk claim that IK ending in prison had absolutely nothing to do with his own contribution. That too was the result of military establishment falling out with him.

 

[SaadH]

So when IK want PTI to contest in elections and that election gets stolen by military establishment, you’re not happy. And when IK does not want PTI to contest in elections because they get stolen by military establishment, you’re still not happy.

You have to understand the secular liberal mindset, there is no rules or objective morality...

 

[Meengla]

Exactly? Like this:

Rise: To PM of a nuclear power.
Fall: To a convicted criminal in jail.

Is that precise enough for you or would you like to argue about these as well?

Honestly, I have NEVER seen a Pakistani politician who enjoyed so much support from the media, from the intelligentsia, from the Judiciary, from the bureaucracy, from the clergy, from the Establishment, from the masses and fall to the lows like Imran has in such a short time between his massive Lahore rally in 2011 to his fall now.