Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Israel did a dry run up to Iraq Iran border the other night.

India has been quietly moving hardware to LOC.

Afghans have been moving theirs to the border.

Iranians are in Pakistan.

Something is brewing. I hope Pakistan is prepared.

this whole waiting for them thing will one day be very costly.......why is Pak always on the defensive only? How about go on offensive and destroy their plans of the invasion, for which they are preparing hard at our borders......
 
this whole waiting for them thing will one day be very costly.......why is Pak always on the defensive only? How about go on offensive and destroy their plans of the invasion, for which they are preparing hard at our borders......


You do that when you are much richer than them and able to afford conflicts in the first place. Also need to have undeniable quantitative or qualitative edge.
 
Should keep an eye on the situation in the US in regards to the two National Guardsmen being shot by an Afghan national.

Aid and visas have already have been suspended to Afghanistan following this, and its possible we can see some escalation depending on the nation outcry, likely indirectly. If we were to see this, it'd likely be through the means of Pakistan (military aid/supplies/intel from the U.S).

Either way, Afghanistan is back, or repositioned itself as a terrorism hotbed in the forgotten minds of the U.S. This obviously isn't good for the Taliban, but also all associated countries, including India.

Again, this depends on the next couple of months in which we'll see how the narrative goes towards.
 
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I love how these ships are labelled as "Research Ships" and not "Spy ships". The same theatrics the Russians used to do the UK aswell.
 
Polite request hai Indian members on forum se : meray paper January mai hai. Koi panga lena hai toh tab aao

2016 Uri
2019 Trees
2025 Some buildings.

At this rate, 2034 or something next time. Should be enough time;)
 
The four-day near-peer air war
Source: Australian Air and Space Power Centre.
Author: Peter Layton
Griffith University and Australian Defence Force.
17.11.2025

In May 2025, India and Pakistan fought a near-peer air war. Such conflicts are rare,
providing insights the more frequent lop-sided air wars do not. At the time, understanding the
conflict was hindered by considerable active disinformation (Mushtaq, 2025). Accordingly,
events are first revisited before operational implications are discussed.
Wednesday, 7 May
Just after midnight, India attacked nine designated terrorist camps as part of a strategy of
deterrence by punishment (Clary, 2025). Seven were near the border with Pakistan and
attacked using precision-guided artillery and drones, reportedly SkyStriker loitering munitions.
The deep strikes involved SCALP subsonic cruise missiles, AASM Hammer missiles, and
some BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles launched from Rafale, Mirage 2000 and Su-30MKI
aircraft. This operation involved some 72 Indian fighters undertaking offensive and defensive
missions in four coordinated waves (Syed, 2025b).
As the Indian aircraft took off, 42 Pakistani air defence fighters were launched to be in place
when the attack commenced (Syed, 2025a). Pakistan appeared to have had a high-quality air
picture, fused from data passed by airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft,
ground based short- and long-range radars, electronic surveillance and allegedly space-based
sensors (Rawat, 2025). This allowed Pakistan to score its biggest success of the four days:
the downing of two, maybe three, Indian fighters: a Rafale, a Mig-29 and perhaps an Su-30.
These losses were apparently to PL-15 air-to-air missiles fired from the J-10C fighters of 15
Squadron (Syed, 2025c).
The Rafale loss occurred at an unusually long range of some 180 kms. Third party
targeting, reportedly from AEW&C aircraft, was used so the target was unaware it was being
engaged until less than a minute before PL-15 impact (Defence Security Asia, 2025).
Tactically surprised, India suspended crewed aircraft operations for two days. The problem
appears an underestimation of Pakistan’s air-to-air missile ranges and so an Indian
intelligence failure (Shah & Patel, 2025). Of interest, no Indian or Pakistani aircraft entered the
other country’s airspace during the four-day air war.
Thursday, 8 May
Pakistan retaliated principally by launching drones against more than 12 military facilities
in both north-western India and Kashmir (Patil & Rawat, 2025). Most were shot down. India in
response attacked air defence radars and systems at some 11 military facilities using Israeli￾made Harpy and Harop anti-radar drones. Banshee target drones were probably used as
decoys. It seems a least one air defence system in Lahore was damaged. Pakistan claimed
25 drones shot down (Biswas, 2025).
Friday, 9 May
A mutual drone war began involving ongoing reconnaissance missions, electronic emitter
mapping missions, strikes and decoy flights (White, 2025). India continued targeting air
defence sites, striking four while losing 48 drones to Pakistani fire. Pakistan escalated,
launching some 300-400 drones, mostly of Chinese and Turkish origin, against 26 Indian
locations. Thesedamaged at least four military airbases (Ministry of External Affairs, 2025).
Overall, India assessed it engaged about 600 Pakistani drones across the war using 750 short￾range SAMs and some 1,000 anti-aircraft guns coordinated through the Akashteer automated
air defence control and reporting system (Sharma, 2025; Singh, 2025).
Saturday, 10 May
Late on 9 May, Pakistani shifted to more sophisticated drones, including the Turkish￾Pakistani Yiha-III loitering munition, and began using the 140km range Fatah-I rocket
(Rawalpindi, 2025). Pakistan targeted some 15 Indian airbases but only achieved limited
damage at four locations as most drone and rocket attacks were defeated. Hinting at a
possible escalatory step, Pakistan launched a 400km range Fatah-II rocket in the direction of
Delhi however, this was intercepted over Sirsa just after midnight (De, 2025).
About two hours later, India launched a large-scale attack against 11 Pakistani airbases
using decoy and anti-radar drones, 15 BrahMos missiles, SCALP cruise missiles, and
Rampage air-launched ballistic missiles. This disabled runways and damaged command
centres and aircraft shelters forcing Pakistan to relocate aircraft to rear bases outside Indian
missile range (TOI News Desk, 2025). A ceasefire was agreed at 3:35pm that day.
Evaluation
India achieved its initially stated aim of damaging the assessed terrorist camps on the first
night. In contrast, Pakistan’s retaliatory attacks were not just ineffectual but demonstrated that
India’s air defence systems were effective. India’s additional attacks after the first night further
suggested India could potentially readily gain air superiority over eastern Pakistan through an
offensive counter-air campaign (Organiser, 2025). While Pakistan’s fighters could defend
against Indian crewed aircraft attacks, the nation’s air defence system could not
comprehensively prevent rocket, missile and drone attacks. Pakistan’s eastern airbases would
become unusable if hostilities continued. The four-day air war became an air superiority battle

that India implicitly won.
Implications
The four-day air war continued the trend of the last few years of crewed combat aircraft
being just one of the means air operations now use (Layton, 2025b). Crewed aircraft are now
being used increasingly cautiously with rockets, missiles and drones instead picking up more
and more of the warfighting burden. This increased use of dissimilar means dramatic changes
for air defences as fighter aircraft alone are no longer sufficient. Ground-based surface-to-air
missiles, anti-aircraft guns and electronic warfare jammers are now essential, even if many of
each are needed to provide area coverage or to defend multiple widespread point targets.
Pakistan’s fighter success highlights that third party targeting is likely in future fighter￾versus-fighter engagements. An AEW&C aircraft or a ground-based radar may be distant but
will now present a threat in being able to cue and guide air-to-air missiles launched by radar￾silent fighters. In electronic warfare terms, not just the higher frequency radars of hostile fighter
aircraft will need to be countered but also the lower frequency radars of these now potential
cueing systems.
Third party targeting also means longer range air-to-air engagements will become common.
This reinforces the decades-long trend of shorter range visual engagements becoming rare
(Stillion, 2015). Moreover, it suggests aircraft flying near national borders could be engaged
by hostile aircraft that remain even well inside their own territorial airspace. Borders are
becoming wide potential weapons engagement zones, perhaps 150km or more deep.
The short sharp air war between India and Pakistan fits into the broad trends shaping air warfare. Air superiority still matters but now requires both defending against, and attacking with, rockets, missiles and drones. Crewed aircraft are no longer enough, making embracing heterogenous airpower important (Layton, 2025a). Air power is constantly evolving. Air forces
need to as well.


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