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[Mr X]

@Mr X @Fatman17 @RescueRanger

are you guys really going to tolerate @Forsvaret abusing army in every post, look at his previous 20 posts, see what has be contributed other than abusing the army.

Sir I am busy at work so I will check later but others mods usually handle such matters faster as I am mainly responsible for maintenance (if needed) and other Admin handles moderation duties.

Please do note that we only take action if someone criticises the Army/state institutions and not if someone criticises the individuals sitting in Army ranks or government offices.

I will check his posts after work

PS: using the report button deals with the issue within couple of minutes as the report is sent to all moderators

 

[Forsvaret]

Now it is being claimed IK is being "mentally tortured" when in fact…

When in fact @VCheng has never spent a day in solitary confinement but seems to know all about IK who has spent years behind bars.

 

[Pradotlc]

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[Pradotlc]

Forget India, but Imran Khan through his sister has accused COAS Asim Munir of wanting war with Afghanistan. How's that statement any different?

That is the global perception..

 

[Forsvaret]

The reality is….

The reality is all & only thing that exists inside @VCheng own head!

 

[Forsvaret]

its as if someone is being paid to just hurl abuses at a single institution.

Military establishment of Pakistan ain’t an "institution". That’s only one of many lies that keep getting repeated over & over again until they become "facts" for some people. Can’t fool everyone though!

 

[Mr X]

I must point out that criticizing the military when it does wrong is, and should, not be a problem for anyone.

The real problem that you refer to here is a cult fixation on pushing forward a particular agenda by sheer lies, ignorance and contrary to provable facts. I agree with you on this.

However, we must also respect the management's right to run their forum as they see fit.

The best response here would be to remain factual and calm and keep presenting valid points to set the record straight to carry the discussion forward.

For example, first it was claimed that IK might have been killed. He was not. Then it was claimed he was not well. His sister after her visit showed that to be a lie as well. Now it is being claimed IK is being "mentally tortured" when in fact it is just a bruised ego wishing for days of past glory and authority. Boo De Frickin Hoo.

The reality is that IK is alive and well and serving out his sentence, and PTI keeps trying to raise any possible ruckus assuming a widespread popularity that has been claimed time and again and has never materialized to date.

PTI lies a lot, so much that I don’t take them seriously anymore

But they have limited options after they were dealt unfairly. Their leader is arrested before any charges were framed, convicted for marrying and sleeping with his wife, literally 180 cases of minor crimes such as Imran Khan went 500km away from his home and stole a cow of someone… so now even if the government brings real cases against him… everyone believes it’s the “shair aaya shair aaya” story that we heard in childhood.

At the same time, PTI can’t wage a war against the state so their options are limited and bunch of lies to feed their emotional supporters is the only tool that have been able to find so far…

Good bye for now as won’t be available for hours… at work

 

[Pradotlc]

there is a difference between criticizing and abusing. what's happening here is not criticizing. its as if someone is being paid to just hurl abuses at a single institution.

Like how noonies do it?

 

[Forsvaret]

But they have limited options after they were dealt unfairly. Their leader is arrested before any charges were framed, convicted for marrying and sleeping with his wife, literally 180 cases of minor crimes such as Imran Khan went 500km away from his home and stole a cow of someone… so now even if the government brings real cases against him… everyone believes it’s the “shair aaya shair aaya” story that we heard in childhood.

I’d have supported all of IK’s convictions if he was indeed given a fair trial to begin with. Getting him convicted in trial proceedings held in his own jail kinda defeats this purpose.

 

[VCheng]

PTI lies a lot, so much that I don’t take them seriously anymore

But they have limited options after they were dealt unfairly. Their leader is arrested before any charges were framed, convicted for marrying and sleeping with his wife, literally 180 cases of minor crimes such as Imran Khan went 500km away from his home and stole a cow of someone… so now even if the government brings real cases against him… everyone believes it’s the “shair aaya shair aaya” story that we heard in childhood.

At the same time, PTI can’t wage a war against the state so their options are limited and bunch of lies to feed their emotional supporters is the only tool that have been able to find so far…

Good bye for now as won’t be available for hours… at work

As I said, I continue to respect the management's right to run their forum as they see fit.

I shall of course remain within PDF rules, and the rest is not up to me.

Back on topic, IK does have the choice and the right to decide his future course as best as possible for him. Whatever he decides will have pros and cons, like always. I am sure he will decide whatever he thinks is right for him.

 

[Mr X]

I’d have supported all of IK’s convictions if he was indeed given a fair trial to begin with. Getting him convicted in trial proceedings held in his own jail kinda defeats this purpose.

Sir, I know you’re a very patriotic Pakistani and I’ve known you for 15–20 years, with full of love for Army and PTI. But please don’t let yourself be misled by PTI’s claims. I’m honestly very allergic to every PTI leader, as they seem to lie whenever they speak on social media.

Atleast, your observations should be fair, and you shouldn’t let your love for your political party cloud your judgement. The army has taken many positive steps over the past year, yet PTI always seems to find an excuse to criticise them. They really need a more balanced approach, and hopefully things will eventually improve for them… after all, PTI is technically the largest political party in Pakistan. So sooner or later, they will be on negotiation table…

After work, I am driving for 200 miles so I won’t be available today

Bye for now

 

[Forsvaret]

PTI is technically the largest political party in Pakistan. So sooner or later, they will be on negotiation table…

Thank you for this acknowledgment, sir.

 

[ARMalik]

Stop lifting the majestic military establishment’s balls on daily basis and I will do the same for Imran’s. Do we have a deal?

I see what you did there. The use of words "His Majesty Imran Khan's Ball" - which I specifically invented to highlight cult like PTI people, you are trying to use the same key words "Balls" , "Majesty".

They say "Imitation is the best form of Flattery".

 

[Meengla]

For example, first it was claimed that IK might have been killed. He was not. Then it was claimed he was not well. His sister after her visit showed that to be a lie as well. Now it is being claimed IK is being "mentally tortured" when in fact it is just a bruised ego wishing for days of past glory and authority. Boo De Frickin Hoo.

Add to those: One of his sons said Imran's health/condition maybe 'irreversibly' worse, implying something much dire. Of course like father, like son: Any which way to get some 'attention'. There is virtually nothing credible left in PTI/Imran words.

Did anyone notice that the PTI guys just met the American Consulate officials to complain about Imran's condition? Yes, the same Americans who had toppled Imran. Besharam hypocrites! Did anyone notice that Imran called his party members traitors for merely attending the recent NDU conference?

The guy is totally unhinged and his only strategy left is to chaos anarchy and bring down Pakistan's fledgling economy. BTW, he was doing such things for a year when he was free after his toppling so not excuse to be made that he is incarcerated without charges or reason.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Okay, but you’ve gotta pay me first if you wanna conduct this behavioral research. People here must not get an impression that I am posting here for free. Deal?

dont post irrelevant arguments, question of research wouldnt arise!