Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present

[Falcon29]

US said to warn Iraq that Israel will strike militias that seek to aid Hezbollah | The Times of Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

So I may have been off on my 72 hour prediction about Hezbollahs response to killing their military chief(still believe it’s going to happen when or even where is up in the air) but it’s starting to look more and more likely Israel about to commit to large air land and sea invasion there telling every country out there whose weak and can not defend against an Israeli attack even one with American troops that they’re next if they even shoot off one drone

Don't believe this fake Al-Hadath nonsense. The Ayatollahs and Al-Saud are both Freemasons that answer to the Jews they'll never actually hurt each other. But they will all try to backstab and destroy Hamas and Gaza which is what we saw. Hezbollah and Resistance axis didn't show up. Hezbollah backed out last second.

Hezbollah still is defacto ruler of Lebanon, Israel nor Al Saud are doing anything to challenge that. If they meant to get rid of Hezbollah they'd do what they did in Gaza occupy all of southern Lebanon indefinitely.

Hezbollah military men have no clue about Freemason Ayatollahs. And they're left with very few resources the Kahanist Ayatollahs revealed all their capabilities before any war happened and gave all locations of weapons storages. By the end of it this group could only fire 10,000 rockets over two years out of 150,000-200,000 arsenal. Not even .06% utilization rate.

 

[hyperman]

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Well... so much for "Axis of Resistance". lol

 

[Solomon2]

All you need to know about Lebanon-Israel Naqoura talks​

by Naharnet Newsdesk 6 hours ago

Lebanese and Israeli civilian representatives met for the first time in decades on Wednesday under the auspices of a year-old ceasefire monitoring mechanism.

The two sides met at the U.N. peacekeeping force's headquarters in Lebanon's Naqoura near the border with Israel, where the guarantors of the November 2024 ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah regularly convene.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office said the atmosphere at the talks was "positive", and that there had been agreement "to develop ideas to promote potential economic cooperation between Israel and Lebanon". Israel also said it was "essential" that Hezbollah disarm regardless of any progress in economic cooperation.

However, Lebanese Prime Minister Nawaf Salam said Lebanon was "far from" diplomatic normalization or "economic relations" with Israel and

Berri's visitors quoted Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri as saying that Karam's mission is "technical" and that the talks are not economic and only revolve around the halt of Israeli attacks and occupation, and the liberation of Lebanese prisoners from Israeli jails.

President Joseph Aoun had appointed former Lebanese ambassador to the U.S. Simon Karam to lead the delegation to the Naqoura meeting. His office said the choice was taken after consultations with Salam and Berri.

Berri's visitors told pro-Hezbollah al-Akhbar newspaper that Berri is not against including experts in the Lebanese delegation when there is need for them and that including experts does not mean Lebanon is going to direct negotiations with Israel or paving the way for future normalization or economic cooperation.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had said Wednesday that the inclusion of Israeli National Security Council official Uri Resnick is "an initial attempt to establish a basis for a relationship and economic cooperation between Israel and Lebanon." He described the Naqoura talks as a "government-economic" meeting.

Al-Liwaa newspaper meanwhile reported that Hezbollah will leave the decision to Berri, although the group is displeased with Karam's inclusion in the delegation.

The daily added that Iran has told Amal MP Ali Hassan Khalil that it does not object to direct negotiations between Lebanon and Israel and that the decision is up to Amal and Hezbollah.

Kataeb leader Sami Gemayel, who met Thursday with Aoun, lauded for his part the negotiations and said he hopes they would be fruitful and would lead to a halt to the Israeli attacks and occupation. Gemayel also called for a complete disarmament of Hezbollah and for a full state control on all territories.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Hezbollah missile launches against Israel. first one looks like Zelzal and second might be Fath-360 (looks smaller than Fateh-110).

 

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[Falcon29]

Old footage of Hezbollah firing rockets at Haifa

Why they're using semi trucks, are their rockets not primed and ready ? Why small quantities and slow rate of fire ?

Hamas has same exact type of rockets hidden and primed

Look at difference, it looks like one is actually trying and better at firing rockets while other is stuck in 2006 using pick up and semi trucks to move launchers and fire them

One believes in the cause, the other doesn't.

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[Shags101]

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Hezbollah missile launches against Israel. first one looks like Zelzal and second might be Fath-360 (looks smaller than Fateh-110).

I think people forget at times Hezbollah has played the long game way before Hamas you would think people would find it quite unnerving how quiet Hezbollah has been I think it’s the same people who made fun of Hamas in Gaza for so many that they forgot who they were but end up surprising the Israelis and the world

 

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since we are doing comparisons

Beirut:



Gaza:



any retarded terrorist can take babies hostage and kill civilians, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

 

[Falcon29]

I think people forget at times Hezbollah has played the long game way before Hamas you would think people would find it quite unnerving how quiet Hezbollah has been I think it’s the same people who made fun of Hamas in Gaza for so many that they forgot who they were but end up surprising the Israelis and the world

They are old pictures. Top one isn't even from Lebanon.

Hezbollah is not playing a long game you can't play a game longer than 20 years straight. They're simply checked out, incompetent, given into Lebanese social dynamics, addicted to money and businesses/luxury lifestyle which they have had for a long time.

Hamas on other hand never played such a game. Constantly fought the Israeli occupation enemy, constantly stood up to them. They sat out one instance where they helped Islamic Jihad behind the scenes in order to sabatoge their plans for Toofan Al-Aqsa. And some Iranian sectarian people attacked Hamas because Hamas was putting the Axis of Resistance to the test and calling on them to participate in the confrontation which they never wanted to do.

Hezbollah's long term game with Iran is to say you have 100,000+ rockets and a force to raid Galilee. Then do a forever media information war and hope all that deters Israel from attacking Iran.

The reality is they had no idea how to protect their rockets. Not sure if they even wanted to. I'm convinced they actually put some of their rocket depots out in the opinion in empty landmass for Israel to attack so Israel can feel it achieved its war objective and Hezbollah can accept ceasefire while saving face by saying they have no weapons left and have to agree.

How do you have 150,000 rockets and never were able to use 10,000 of them. Their artillery division was ran by incompetent people that are too prideful to learn from Israeli attacks on Gaza. Israel Air Force evolved so much from 2006. Hamas adapted and evolved along the way that's why Hamas was able to use more than it's projected arsenal. A 140% utilization rate. Hezbollah had a 6% utilization rate. And we were told they were the big dog that would make Hamas look like an amateur organization.

Hezbollah won't make a comeback it's leadership is comfortable knowing Israel/US allows them to survive and rule Lebanon behind the scenes. They're comfortable not fighting and dying for a cause they don't believe in. They're comfortable with cash flow and businesses their base runs. They even travel to Dubai and cooperate with UAE leaders on businesses in UAE and Lebanon.

The true military guys were killed or ousted long ago. They don't allow anyone from Mughienyeh family to have any meaningful position in Hezbollah. Nor anyone from Bint Jbeil.

Huge failure by IRGC to not recognize Hezbollah's shortcomings and exhaust their men and resources in Syria. Maybe it was Iranian military fighting in the 12 day war at least they lobbed some missiles back in an organized and consistent fashion. Hezbollah wasn't, they were looking for an off-ramp the entire time. IRGC might be incompetent like Hezbollah.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I think people forget at times Hezbollah has played the long game way before Hamas you would think people would find it quite unnerving how quiet Hezbollah has been I think it’s the same people who made fun of Hamas in Gaza for so many that they forgot who they were but end up surprising the Israelis and the world

yes. when Israel launched strikes against PIJ in Gaza in 2022, Hamas stayed out of it and didn't respond to Israel. then suddenly in 2023 they launched their attacks.

 

[Shags101]

yes. when Israel launched strikes against PIJ in Gaza in 2022, Hamas stayed out of it and didn't respond to Israel. then suddenly in 2023 they launched their attacks.

again I don’t know jolanis mindset but he could also be another playing possum but who knows like people have said he’s from another generation one that doesn’t fear death but will seek martyrdom but personally I think he prefers playing basketball and pool nothing wrong with not seeking war but come on and people rag on Hezbollah……..see that’s how you burn people I had to

 

[Shags101]

since we are doing comparisons

Beirut:

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Gaza:

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any retarded terrorist can take babies hostage and kill civilians, doesn't mean it's a good idea.

To be fair most were soldiers but I don’t disagree taking children and elderly wasn’t the highlight of October 7 they shouldn’t have

 

[Falcon29]

yes. when Israel launched strikes against PIJ in Gaza in 2022, Hamas stayed out of it and didn't respond to Israel. then suddenly in 2023 they launched their attacks.

Hamas did not stay out. You don't know Gaza social dynamics well and you don't know that Hamas and Islamic Jihad were one group at one point. All Hamas and Islamic Jihad commanders are real life friends, and the response was coordinated between the entire JOR. With Hamas acting as emergency backup if Israel escalated.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad fought side by side in Gaza for eternity. And still do to this day. That's why Islamic Jihad immediately came to Hamas's support on the day of Toofan Al-Aqsa.

 

[Shags101]

Hamas did not stay out. You don't know Gaza social dynamics well and you don't know that Hamas and Islamic Jihad were one group at one point. All Hamas and Islamic Jihad commanders are real life friends, and the response was coordinated between the entire JOR. With Hamas acting as emergency backup if Israel escalated.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad fought side by side in Gaza for eternity. And still do to this day. That's why Islamic Jihad immediately came to Hamas's support on the day of Toofan Al-Aqsa.

They stayed out because their goals were bigger than what happened on that day

 

[Falcon29]

They stayed out because their goals were bigger than what happened on that day

They didn't stay out. Would Hezbollah allow any group to engage in a clash with Israel that lasts weeks? They would certainly not. As they won't back any other group's decisions nor approve them.

Hamas consults Islamic Jihad, response is coordinated, Hamas mobilizes as Israel could start striking at them during such a clash without warning, Hamas prepares to confront surprise ground offensive or raid, and ready to fire back if Israel starts targeting civilians and families, without concealing last minute methods to go into action so Israel can't learn how they go into full mobilization

Hamas even crafts response package for Islamic Jihad

That's far from 'staying out'