Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present

[Falcon29]

The current Syrian president was an actual terr leader. No need to vilify him. The guy was wanted by the US until a year ago. He is a bad guy already.

After what we see the US facilitate in Gaza I don't think anybody cares what the US thinks

 

[Falcon29]

Didn't I tell y'all Syrian rebels and Hamas are going to take over Lebanon LOL

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[Foinikas]

After what we see the US facilitate in Gaza I don't think anybody cares what the US thinks

Hahahaha! This isn't about the US! The US changed their whole view of the guy,because it suits them! He did their job.

It's about those people who talk about terrorism all the time,but welcomed Jolani as a legitimate president. The man spent his life being in two of the most notorious and brutal terrorist organizations in the world. And not just as a member,but as one of the leading figures.

Then he took power by force,wore a suit and now some people(including you)call him "Mr.President".

Jolani. We're talking about a radical jihadist. A terrorist. A warlord.

 

[Foinikas]

The Levant Conquest

This is the Levant Conquest? A devastated Syria,fractioned and divided and a Gaza that looks like a massive junkyard? This is the glorious Levant Conquest of the Muslim Brotherhood? This is what Hamas and the Ottoman vassals promised to the Sunnah?

No wonder you guys can't get back to the golden age of Arab civilization,not with such mentality.

 

[Foinikas]

Didn't I tell y'all Syrian rebels and Hamas are going to take over Lebanon LOL

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Then you're gonna have another civil war and you'll be the first here blaming everyone else except the radicals.

 

[Shags101]

Then you're gonna have another civil war and you'll be the first here blaming everyone else except the radicals.

Peaceful protests against the Assad dynasty nothing wrong with that I think what Syria needs right now is peaceful resolutions also I don’t see how we are equating this with Hamas or Syrian rebels Hamas won’t be taking a major foothold in south Lebanon because Hezbollah and Israel wont allow it and the rest of Lebanon by lebanons army and Hezbollah as well land I’m saying all of this knowing Hamas isn’t against Hezbollah

 

[Musings]

Please stick to the actual topic

 

[Falcon29]

Hahahaha! This isn't about the US! The US changed their whole view of the guy,because it suits them! He did their job.

You just said he was already a bad guy because he was on US most wanted list a second ago.

The US didn't change their view about anything. He disassociated from Al Qaeda , in sense he doesn't pledge any allegiance to Ayman Zawahiri guy as spiritual leader. That's what was considered his link to Al Qaeda.

It's about those people who talk about terrorism all the time,but welcomed Jolani as a legitimate president. The man spent his life being in two of the most notorious and brutal terrorist organizations in the world. And not just as a member,but as one of the leading figures.

Then he took power by force,wore a suit and now some people(including you)call him "Mr.President".

Jolani. We're talking about a radical jihadist. A terrorist. A warlord

US doesn't like him. You want us to take their word and their surface level talk/purported views when in reality on ground they're trying to force him to make concessions and a agreement with Israel. They refuse to lift sanctions off Syria. They're hounding him with their journalists and diplomats asking what's his view on women this and that.

They're demanding he give over representation to minorities in government. Demanding he has immediate elections soon to throw him out of power. Demanding he tolerates Druze and Kurdish militias that US and Israel are both protecting in Syria.

This is why you can't be taken seriously dude

You can't see past his background as a Sunni Islamist

But you're very happy if it's a secular leader of Sunni background so you can paint them all as agents of Israel and US. While other leaders you have bias for are independent and revolutionary.

 

[Foinikas]

You just said he was already a bad guy because he was on US most wanted list a second ago.

The US didn't change their view about anything. He disassociated from Al Qaeda , in sense he doesn't pledge any allegiance to Ayman Zawahiri guy as spiritual leader. That's what was considered his link to Al Qaeda.

If they didn't change their view,they wouldn't have invited him to the White House.

This is why you can't be taken seriously dude

You can't see past his background as a Sunni Islamist

I can't be taken seriously? Me?

You're literally cheering for a known terrorist. Not a "freedom fighter",not some guerilla. A ceritified radical islamist who spent his life in the two worst,most hardcore,brutal organizations in the world. You're literally cheering for a guy who was ideologically intolerant of anything but a hardline view of Islam. And you're saying I can't be taken seriously? You're living the life in USA,go live in Syria under Jolani,go live in a hardline regime like Taliban Afghanistan,since you seem so excited about Syria's new president.

But you're very happy if it's a secular leader of Sunni background so you can paint them all as agents of Israel and US. While other leaders you have bias for are independent and revolutionary.

I'm not painting anyone as an Israeli or American puppet. I'm not the one using such terms when it comes to people like Sisi or the king of Jordan. It's usually some of your friends who go around nagging about every secular Arab leader being an american puppet.

 

[Falcon29]

If they didn't change their view,they wouldn't have invited him to the White House.

That's not how politics worse. They know Syria is a sensitive matter for Saudis/Qatari's and Syrians. The offensive was unexpected. Nobody anticipated fall of Syrian regime. A fight around Hama was possible but was also not anticipated.

The US is not going to immediately label all Syrian rebels as terrorists and anger the Arab world, particularly their powerful allies like Saudi Arabia.

They have to deal with Ahmed Sharaa for now. For the US he gets disposed soon through elections or another method he is a non factor to them.

What they're doing is preventing Syrian rebels from consolidating control over Syria. Occupying east Syria to pressure Syrian government to normalize with Israel. And keeping sanctions instated.

The Syrian people are living off aid and salaries are being paid thanks to aid from their allies. The US is deliberately weakening them and keeping them weak. Within a year or two if they don't force Syrian government and people into normalization with Israel they'll start leveraging more aggressive policies against them.

It's fake 'goodwill' and it's not working. Ahmed Sharaa and Syrian government and people are trying to work with allies in region to navigate the situation over next few years.

US and Israel both know that and are keeping pressure on Syria with sanctions and military occupation.

Few months from now they could say the Syrian army are Hamas and start an all out offensive against them

I can't be taken seriously? Me?

You're literally cheering for a known terrorist. Not a "freedom fighter",not some guerilla. A ceritified radical islamist who spent his life in the two worst,most hardcore,brutal organizations in the world. You're literally cheering for a guy who was ideologically intolerant of anything but a hardline view of Islam. And you're saying I can't be taken seriously? You're living the life in USA,go live in Syria under Jolani,go live in a hardline regime like Taliban Afghanistan,since you seem so excited about Syria's new president.


I'm not painting anyone as an Israeli or American puppet. I'm not the one using such terms when it comes to people like Sisi or the king of Jordan. It's usually some of your friends who go around nagging about every secular Arab leader being an american puppet.

You are a false flagger Iranian that trashes every Sunni Islamist and is pro- every single Shia Islamist. And what's funny by your own admission you're not religious it's just anti-Arab bigotry and narcassism you grew up on.

Syrian opposition aren't radicals nor Taliban. Afghanistan is a very tribal place ruined by decades of war. Syria isn't.

Syrian diaspora in the US are very educated and wealthy. They also have connections with Syrian government and want Syria to develop, grow, and survive so they'll play big advisory role for Syrian government and also persuade the US to be more easy on Syrian government.


In the long term I don't think it will work because of Israel. And Arabs like Saudis and others are way more sensitive to issue of Syria rather than Hamas and Gaza so if Syria comes under a big attack it will be controversial and ignite big tensions in the region and also between Saudis and the US.

That's partially why they're not too aggressive against Ahmed Sharaa and new Syrian government.

But as soon as new Syrian army tries consolidating East and South Syria back to their control, you'll see them start burning Syria to ground.

They did that a few months ago when Syrians clashed with Hijri militia.

The fake 'goodwill' isn't real but you are pretending there's some kind of love making going on between Ahmed sharaa, the US and Israel.

They are just trying to give the guy false confidence and prevent him from removing Kurdish and Hijri militias. Buying time to solidify those occupations and plan a way to oust him and Syrian opposition. Right now the sanctions are hurting Syrians the economy is stagnant two more years of this the people will lose patience then the US and Israel will begin destablizing actions

We aren't naive kids

 

[Falcon29]

Sunni gonna Sunni!
How long before they start beheading Shia women and children?

Aren't you the previously banned Persian God King guy that was telling Pakistani members here to beat their chests like monkeys and got banned for it?

He used a lot of exclamation marks like you do lol

 

[Falcon29]

Israel and US for now appear to have scrapped Hezbollah end of year deadline

Hezbollah is committing to stay out of southern Lebanon and is focused on political survival in Lebanon

US and Israel in my opinion are now turning their eyes on Gaza and Syria

The Israeli strikes on Qatar seem to have backfired. Israel and the US I think are waiting to see if Turkey makes a move in Syria against PKK.

They want to delay it.

I don't believe Gaza will be attacked again they may actually prepare international forces in Gaza in Q1-Q2 of next year


@hyperman

What do you think? I believe US and Israel have called off any attack on Lebanon. And they're closely watching what happens in Syria with PKK in particular.

Btw I know Syrian Kurds in real life that are practicing Syrian Muslims they're very hard to tell apart from Syrian Arab Muslims. And they seem no different.

PKK made a false narrative about Syrians of Kurdish descent as if they're seeking federalization. They are Sunni Islamists but more Sufi moderate type like Syrian Arab Sunnis and Turkish Sunnis.

The notion that Kurds would be killed is a big giant lie.

Literally the government just wants control of the country and life goes on normally. Most of those areas are populated by Arabs actually.

 

[Shags101]

Sunni gonna Sunni!
How long before they start beheading Shia women and children?

Again I don’t see anything wrong with the video were they chanting death to Shias were they degrading alwaites if you lived under Assad Syrian occupation why wouldn’t you cheer the family falling you poke at other members who make degrading remarks against Shias but have no issue making off color jokes(that aren’t funny) and technically I would be considered Sunni but honestly I believe and know words like Shia and Sunni are just made up if their not in the Quran fake words we are all Muslims who should be good to one another no matter our differences……..trust me its very hard sometimes with you guys though

 

[hyperman]

Israel and US for now appear to have scrapped Hezbollah end of year deadline

Hezbollah is committing to stay out of southern Lebanon and is focused on political survival in Lebanon

US and Israel in my opinion are now turning their eyes on Gaza and Syria

The Israeli strikes on Qatar seem to have backfired. Israel and the US I think are waiting to see if Turkey makes a move in Syria against PKK.

They want to delay it.

I don't believe Gaza will be attacked again they may actually prepare international forces in Gaza in Q1-Q2 of next year


@hyperman

What do you think? I believe US and Israel have called off any attack on Lebanon. And they're closely watching what happens in Syria with PKK in particular.

Btw I know Syrian Kurds in real life that are practicing Syrian Muslims they're very hard to tell apart from Syrian Arab Muslims. And they seem no different.

PKK made a false narrative about Syrians of Kurdish descent as if they're seeking federalization. They are Sunni Islamists but more Sufi moderate type like Syrian Arab Sunnis and Turkish Sunnis.

The notion that Kurds would be killed is a big giant lie.

Literally the government just wants control of the country and life goes on normally. Most of those areas are populated by Arabs actually.

I don't think its called off, It could be but I don't think the Israelis are done with either Hezbollah or Iran, for one thing they see Hezbollah as historically vulnerable and don't want to let the opportunity go. But its interesting to see what has given them pause, I think its possibly Turkey related, they don't want Turks in Gaza, and I think you are right, they may be waiting and seeing how things go with Turkey and the PKK in Northern Syria. The zionist entity I suspect will attack Syria if it makes a move in northern Syria, which is why I prefer Turkey to handle it directly, they may attack Syria, but they are not stupid enough to attack Turkey in Northern Syria.

 

[Shags101]

I don't think its called off, It could be but I don't think the Israelis are done with either Hezbollah or Iran, for one thing they see Hezbollah as historically vulnerable and don't want to let the opportunity go. But its interesting to see what has given them pause, I think its possibly Turkey related, they don't want Turks in Gaza, and I think you are right, they may be waiting and seeing how things go with Turkey and the PKK in Northern Syria. The zionist entity I suspect will attack Syria if it makes a move in northern Syria, which is why I prefer Turkey to handle it directly, they may attack Syria, but they are not stupid enough to attack Turkey in Northern Syria.

Man is it me or is anyone else interested in a match up Israel against turkey im actually not even being sarcastic im interested if Israel attacks turkey first because they believe turkey will threaten their hold on Syria and if they do which the Israelis like to hit first and hard would nato fall behind turkey im thinking America won’t allow it no matter what natos charter says