hasssanali8998
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also our program is way more mature .
Hangor Class Submarine | Updates & Discussion
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Michael
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I previously mentioned this on this forum:
Regarding military technology cooperation between Pakistan and Turkey, the proportion of technical support provided by Pakistan to Turkey is far greater than that provided by Turkey to Pakistan.
In a very few areas, Turkey is ahead of Pakistan. But in many more areas, Pakistan's technology is at least one generation ahead of Turkey, and in some areas, the gap is even more than two generations.
The problem is:
Pakistan lacks the economic strength to translate these technologies into actual products, and also lacks a sufficiently developed industrial environment to integrate these technologies.
In this respect, Turkey is doing better than Pakistan. Therefore, superficially, Turkey's military industry seems to be developing better. But in reality...... well, let's leave it at that, I don't want to start a flame war.
However, both Pakistanis and Turks oppose this view.
WARSIDT
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WARSIDT
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If we look at the general picture yeah Türkiye is technologically ahead. It’s not really possible for Pakistan to be 1 or 2 generations ahead. Because like @Michael (the Chinese guy) said, technology isn’t something that just “progresses by itself.” You need money, investment, years of training people, then even more money to turn that tech into an actual product. Then you improve it again and scale it up. It doesn’t fall from the sky. South Africa is a perfect example of this. China is a perfect example. South Korea is a perfect example. Türkiye is also a perfect example.
But nobody can deny this either: in the Türkiye–Pakistan relationship, Türkiye is the side that benefits the most. Whether it’s money, political support, or anything else, Türkiye gains more in this partnership.
So yeah in one way you can call it win-win, but it’s debatable from Pakistan’s side.
All I did was explain the stupidity of Turkish news channels to someone, then explain how the two countries look at the ballistic field differently because of tactical differences, not because of technological inferiority. I rarely comment on forums. I guess I just remembered again why I don’t feel like commenting.
Dreamer
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پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی چینی بیس پر لانچ کر دی گئی
پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی کو چین کے شہر ووہان میں شوانگ لیو بیس پر لانچ کر دیا گیا۔
jang.com.pk
پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی کو چین کے شہر ووہان میں شوانگ لیو بیس پر لانچ کر دیا گیا۔
پاک فوج کے شعبہ تعلقات عامہ (آئی ایس پی آر) کا کہنا ہے کہ پاک بحریہ کی غازی ہنگور کلاس کی چوتھی آبدوز ہے جو چین میں تیار کی گئی ہے۔
غازی کی لانچنگ کے بعد چین میں زیرِ تعمیر چاروں ہنگور آبدوزیں سی ٹرائلز کے مرحلے میں داخل ہو گئیں۔
The fourth Hangor class submarine of Pakistan Navy named GHAZI has been launched at Shuangliu Base in Wuhan, China. With the launching of GHAZI, Pakistan Navy has achieved another significant milestone where all four submarines under construction in China are now undergoing rigorous sea trials and are in the final stages of being handed over to Pakistan.
The Government of Pakistan signed an agreement with China for acquisition of eight HANGOR Class submarines. Under this contract, four submarines are being built in China and remaining four will be constructed in Pakistan by Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works Ltd (KS&EW), under Transfer of Technology (ToT).
These Submarines will be fitted with advanced weapons and sensors capable of engaging targets at standoff ranges. HANGOR Class submarines will be pivotal in maintaining peace and stability in the region.
The launching ceremony was attended by senior officials from both countries further demonstrating the deepening bilateral cooperation.
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی چینی بیس پر لانچ کر دی گئی
پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی کو چین کے شہر ووہان میں شوانگ لیو بیس پر لانچ کر دیا گیا۔
پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی کو چین کے شہر ووہان میں شوانگ لیو بیس پر لانچ کر دیا گیا۔
پاک فوج کے شعبہ تعلقات عامہ (آئی ایس پی آر) کا کہنا ہے کہ پاک بحریہ کی غازی ہنگور کلاس کی چوتھی آبدوز ہے جو چین میں تیار کی گئی ہے۔
غازی کی لانچنگ کے بعد چین میں زیرِ تعمیر چاروں ہنگور آبدوزیں سی ٹرائلز کے مرحلے میں داخل ہو گئیں۔
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The fourth Hangor class submarine of Pakistan Navy named GHAZI has been launched at Shuangliu Base in Wuhan, China. With the launching of GHAZI, Pakistan Navy has achieved another significant milestone where all four submarines under construction in China are now undergoing rigorous sea trials and are in the final stages of being handed over to Pakistan.
The Government of Pakistan signed an agreement with China for acquisition of eight HANGOR Class submarines. Under this contract, four submarines are being built in China and remaining four will be constructed in Pakistan by Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works Ltd (KS&EW), under Transfer of Technology (ToT).
These Submarines will be fitted with advanced weapons and sensors capable of engaging targets at standoff ranges. HANGOR Class submarines will be pivotal in maintaining peace and stability in the region.
The launching ceremony was attended by senior officials from both countries further demonstrating the deepening bilateral cooperation.
any estimate on when they will be inducted
Toxic
Trusted Member
Hangor will definitely be inducted next year probably in February and perhaps a another one later in the year, 2 more Chinese built ones will be probably be inducted in 2027, if the first two Karachi built ones are launched next year then they will probably be inducted in 2028 and last two by 2030.
kimjongun
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پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی چینی بیس پر لانچ کر دی گئی
پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی کو چین کے شہر ووہان میں شوانگ لیو بیس پر لانچ کر دیا گیا۔
پاکستان نیوی کی آبدوز غازی کو چین کے شہر ووہان میں شوانگ لیو بیس پر لانچ کر دیا گیا۔
پاک فوج کے شعبہ تعلقات عامہ (آئی ایس پی آر) کا کہنا ہے کہ پاک بحریہ کی غازی ہنگور کلاس کی چوتھی آبدوز ہے جو چین میں تیار کی گئی ہے۔
غازی کی لانچنگ کے بعد چین میں زیرِ تعمیر چاروں ہنگور آبدوزیں سی ٹرائلز کے مرحلے میں داخل ہو گئیں۔
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The fourth Hangor class submarine of Pakistan Navy named GHAZI has been launched at Shuangliu Base in Wuhan, China. With the launching of GHAZI, Pakistan Navy has achieved another significant milestone where all four submarines under construction in China are now undergoing rigorous sea trials and are in the final stages of being handed over to Pakistan.
The Government of Pakistan signed an agreement with China for acquisition of eight HANGOR Class submarines. Under this contract, four submarines are being built in China and remaining four will be constructed in Pakistan by Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works Ltd (KS&EW), under Transfer of Technology (ToT).
These Submarines will be fitted with advanced weapons and sensors capable of engaging targets at standoff ranges. HANGOR Class submarines will be pivotal in maintaining peace and stability in the region.
The launching ceremony was attended by senior officials from both countries further demonstrating the deepening bilateral cooperation.
Tbh wanted to see the side of the boat...probably not i hope there will be some differences in the first two and the last two..
