Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NA71]

If this is true, IAF are definitely idiots of the highest order. the moment you lost first was the moment they should have backed down. This also means they definitely have meteor on their Rafale otherwise with MICA it doesnt make sense but again one can expect any kind of stupidity from IAF

First two kills were in short time and radios were jammed or distorted ....they could not got through the kills info passed on....hence they continued the mission.

 

[AeronautIR]

Ya to hum kabi gareeb qom hai jin ke paas khanay ke liye kuch nahi ya toh poori dunya Pakistani paiso pe narrative chalati hai.

Agar itna hi paisa hai mijhe bhi do mai kab se Pakistani narrative chala raha ho

Sorry, we only buy Western media channels and journalists... nothing for you and me.

 

[hnn]

Wasnt the reason dgispr claimed no f-16 used because they didn’t want to face possible us sanctions for conducting offensive sorties with the f-16s. At the time us Pakistan relations were very strained so i get why we didnt want to publicly acknowledge use of f-16s due to user agreement

Nope, the F-16 EUM allows us to use it for defense and in 2019 Abhi-dumb-done was inside our air space so no EUM breach on our part. We however, can't use F-16s for pre-emptive strikes but if it's an officially declared war then we can use F-16s any way we want. The more probable reason was to market JF-17 (although that's my guess) - @HemlockKhalid/AeronautIR

 

[r3alist]

Oh, that's easy... Alan Warnes is on payroll of PAF, so that article is not authentic or trustworthy.
Extreme cope.

Why is that cope?

 

[NA71]

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[Ali_Baba]

I mean no offense and please don't get angry like some other people have.
This question has been asked and answered literally 20 times.
They don't have the capability to take out all the runways. And we are improving our layered IADS to improve interception rate.

In addition to IADS, shouldn't main bases like Saraghoda be upgraded to have multiple truly independent runways created. That makes it harder to take out the flight operations of an airbase. Saraghoda was taken out for a few hours during the conflict while runway repairs were done. If you counter that with how much Nevatim took from Iran, yet it carried on with flight operations you can see the issue the PAF has with this base.

This damage by India on Saraghoda airbase took out flight operations for hours and fighter jets on that bases were stranded until the runway could be repaired. That was a very significant issue given the type of fighters that operate from that base.




We shouldn't gloss over how hard Saraghoda was hit from a capability perspective and its flight operations ( and please don't go down the rabbit hole of pretending taxi slipways could have been used, if the intention was to ever use them in that fashion they would have been made 2x wider in the first place which they were not ... ).

Nevatim Airbase design ( there are others that are even better designed ).




I appreciate that Saraghoda is an old airbase, but it either gets upgraded with a better and more resilient new runways relative to its importance or it is capabilities are moved to a better more modern airbase. I can't imagine a runway itself costing that much either.

 

[side-winder]

please don't go down the rabbit hole of pretending taxi slipways could have been used, if the intention was to ever use them in that fashion they would have been made 2x wider in the first place which they were not

They can be used if required. The relavant NAV Aids ILS / PAR / ATCR fully support the landings on the parallel operating surface.

The only issue can be the FOD due to debris from interceptions or impact on main surface. Which would require one time thorough inspection before it can be cleared for aircrafts.

 

[Starlord]

Ya to hum kabi gareeb qom hai jin ke paas khanay ke liye kuch nahi ya toh poori dunya Pakistani paiso pe narrative chalati hai.

Agar itna hi paisa hai mijhe bhi do mai kab se Pakistani narrative chala raha ho

Bura nai manna, mai bhi Gareeb hi hun

 

[Cipher212]

I mean no offense and please don't get angry like some other people have.
This question has been asked and answered literally 20 times.
They don't have the capability to take out all the runways. And we are improving our layered IADS to improve interception rate.

I know . We intercepted a good number on 10th May too it's not all negative. On top of just adding more AD we could also construct additional runways.

It can't be too expensive to expand some of air airbases with additional taxiways and runways.

 

[falcon34]

. Now if these guys haven't been shown the evidence for our ground strikes - they have all the right to ask questions - their doubts may not necessarily need to be facts.

Brother, tbh other than that Own goal statement of IAF chief's about CM400 landing where S400 was, there is no evidence, I've gone through sate imagery of all of Indian bases from north to south.
Didn't find any damage, what itches me is what happened to us, we literally bombed India in 2019 and elwe even recorded and than comes 25 and we don't even release proper evidence, why?.
What degraded our A2G ops that we couldn't land a single ground hit of consequence?

 

[falcon34]

Oh, that's easy... Alan Warnes is on payroll of PAF, so that article is not authentic or trustworthy.
Extreme cope.

But brother it's not all talk and lacks any evidence, indians can boast on those sat images.

 

[TAC]

The offensive response should be to see missile strikes on their main urban centers to send a message that this is not some Bollywood movie. The Hindu nationalists should be hammered hard like their ancestors to ensure they don’t harbor any delusions of thinking themselves as the Isreal of the Middle East.

But I guess mr “maturity and restraint” needs to tie the Pakistan military’s hands in the back to ensure he gets camera time with Donald Trump at the White House.

Yeah let’s kill as many civilians in ‘urban centres’ as we can and then see where that goes. So how many Pakistani civilians including women and children you also condemning to death with your keyboard bravery?

 

[AeronautIR]

But brother it's not all talk and lacks any evidence, indians can boast on those sat images.

Asked and answered.

 

[AeronautIR]

Brother, tbh other than that Own goal statement of IAF chief's about CM400 landing where S400 was, there is no evidence, I've gone through sate imagery of all of Indian bases from north to south.
Didn't find any damage, what itches me is what happened to us, we literally bombed India in 2019 and elwe even recorded and than comes 25 and we don't even release proper evidence, why?.
What degraded our A2G ops that we couldn't land a single ground hit of consequence?

Let's just unpack your argument first. We saw hits on our bases but according to you, no evidence means we couldn't hit any Indian target.

Still, India was kind enough to agree to cease fire out of goodness of their heart, even though they had complete upper hand. Strange, isn't it?

We didn't hit a single target on purpose in 2019. This time, the damage to India was far more than any skirmish before. This conflict has shown that India has no capability advantage against Pakistan. India has not announced the total number of their losses even with a ton of evidence and they won't accept destruction of targets if we decide to release the imagery.

 

[AeronautIR]

I know . We intercepted a good number on 10th May too it's not all negative. On top of just adding more AD we could also construct additional runways.

It can't be too expensive to expand some of air airbases with additional taxiways and runways.

It is quite expensive actually. The PCN/ACN calculations decide the requirements and its construction is not a simple task.