Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Turkiye expressed their opposition to US attacking Iran.

The UAE is very supportive of such an attack.

It is important to distinguish where each of these countries stand.

the only thing that matters is which country allows the US military to use their territory to help them bomb Iran

the rest is just talk

the biggest bases are in Qatar and Bahrain

 

[hasn2009]

Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Turkiye expressed their opposition to US attacking Iran.

The UAE is very supportive of such an attack.

It is important to distinguish where each of these countries stand.

the only thing that matters is which country allows the US military to use their territory to help them bomb Iran

the rest is just talk

True, all these lovey dovey muslim states are hosting the infra which helps in attacking Gaza, Yemen, Iran etc. They also allow one way traffic over their territory when Israel is attacking another country, but they do their best to intercept and help defend Israel when someone else is attacking Israel.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[VCheng]

Some photos in this link from Tehran:

Iranians return to daily life in a capital scarred by deadly protests

In Tehran last week, NBC News observed scorched buildings and vehicles left in the wake of recent anti-regime protests that killed thousands.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Bharatah]

Israel prepared that strike for many years, it won't be a big shock and awe still strike that Iran takes 17 hours to wake up from

this time the response will be much quicker but ultimately the same problems will likely exist, just to a lesser extent

Not exacly, "Israel" tried to do the same months before and failed miserably because Iran's air defense system stopped everything. With this in mind, "Israel" saw that it needed to destroy Iran's air defense system internally and using spies (who have been there for years) they deactivated several defense cells, in addition to helping kill Iranian military personnel and scientists, it was all done INTERNALLY(Iran's secret service even found drone factories within the country itself, drones manufactured by Mossad). After the initial CHAOS, then came the bombings but with a counterattack from Iran, "Israel " had to stop, and the government's plan to fall failed.
Many of these spies (including political and military areas) inside Iran remained in the post-war 12 days and were the ones who commanded the color revolution now of 2026. Iran managed to cut Starlink and other satellites and locate, kill and arrest several of them, which dealt a great blow to the CIA and MOSSAD, although they still have people there.
This way, a war over Iran is completely UNLIKELY now. War would have occurred if the color revolution had evolved and worked, but it flopped. Without insiders, without spies, without corruption, without betrayal, nothing works for the CIA and Mossad. Look at the case of the Chinese general who was passing nuclear information to the US... Venezuela, Iran, Iraq are full of infiltrators.

NOTE: After they do this with spies and infiltrators, in the media they invent a fake narrative that it was a miraculous technology that made the event happen.

 

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[Arash]

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Bahrain/Qatar -> Egypt?

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note those either not standing against or even supporting it : Baku, UAE & Jordan. Time to settle score with them once everything is over.

 

[ToddE]

Truth... I read something surprising, that the majority of the Shahs in the Persian empire had Turkic origin. Naturally we were all intermingled back then.... As I mentioned, many different people, united under one banner. If you think about it, it's pretty unique for the times. I believe one of the reasons for the cohesion came from the equal application of the rule of law.

Offcourse but mind you that Oghuz Turks that came to Iranic Plateau were outskirt natives including my own Avshars. Male lineages of Sefevis was Kurdish but Turkified through maternal martial turkic influence. Seljuq, Ottomans, Qacars, Avshars, Qara and Aq-Ghovanlo, Sefevi all have local Iranic plateau haplogroups (R1/J1/J2) now confirmed in modern times through descendants. This means Turkic tribes of Iran and Anatolia either adapted Turkification or the male lineages were changed to local Iranic males at some point. Some people theorisize that most of these turkic tribes were result of Samanid Persian lords bringing them into Iranic plateaue under whom they may have reformed their identity so before entering, they were already Irano-Turkics. Its something that nobody has any answer for that how come some tribe that traces its lineage to Altaic mountains may have local dna and haplogroup. Here is another fun fact, the khazar Jews also had iranic R1/R2/J1/J2 haplogroups so ashkenazi male lineage got its start inside Iran as well.

As for cohesion, I will give you an example. In 12th-13th century, Aq-ghovanlo kings called themselves as Aryan descendents of Cyrus, Xerxes, some called Sassan origin. People adapt and became what they are attracted to. Tork-Persian/Iranic cohesion is almost a millenium old now.

 

[ToddE]

True. Iran as a Shia isamist nation cant coexist in a Sunni dominated world. Its only 50 years or so Shias gained status as Muslims. Jews are people of the book. Shias are mushrikeen or ahl al-bidaa at best.

The Sunni world is Turkish oriented, and by that NATO oriented and ultimately zion oriented. Irans anti-imperialist, anti-Zionist Islamist ideology is defacto anti-Sunni due to their connection with zion. This is why Arabs and Turks were objecting Iranian influence and AoR while having no problem with Zionism.

Hopefully IRGC has noted this and has planned accordingly

Sunni domination means nothing because populations live in their own enclaves, they do not interact. Iranians, Iraqis, Azerbaycanis and Tork Alevis, Syriac Alawites, Lebanese, crossover to Penninsular shias and Yemen ... all of this crescent and others from around together wields some 350-400 million people. Rich as F in hydrocarbon. All these groups are martial heritage owning groups. Who gives crap what other think when we are Ok with ourselves. Heretic or whatever, we exist, we are not going anywhere. Truth be told its all a mere political tool. IRI has mild issues with Shia Azeris, our own blood and faith people while we are very OK with sunni turkish who often cooperate with IRI in catching dissidents. You know where the biggest pro IRI demonstrations happned outside Iran? Two of our biggest Sunni neighbours. Wahabi KSA is trying to F its own wahabi Arab UAE while cozying up with Shia Iran for cooperation in Iraq, Yemen, Sudan. Except for very stupid low class masses, nobody in power gives a damn about 1500 years old stories when it comes to real politics.

 

[ToddE]

Naval blockade will happen it seems. Still theatrics because there is no end game to this.

 

[Immortals]

kinda think this is just an excuse to remove competition . if this did happen no way you announce it publicly and embarrass your country

They haven’t announced the reason publically yet. Our China friends can tell us more. The WSJ leaked this information, likely because the intelligence agencies want to embarrass China and send Xi a message.

Let’s not forget, the West managed to get a Nazi General in a high profile meeting with Hitler and his top brass at one of the most secure compounds in the war with a briefcase bomb. If he had put the briefcase bomb on the proper leg of the table, the blast radius would have killed Hitler as well.

If they can infiltrate Hitler’s circle, then in 2026 there is no circle that is immune to the West’s reach.

 

[Immortals]

Iran has 20+ such bases in West Iran alone.

Here is the problem:

U.S. has 180 F-22’s. Even if we say a pathetic 50% are combat ready that’s still 90 F-22’s that could fly over Iran (not even counting the hundreds of F-35s).

How will the Iranian air defense team stop the F-22 from bombing the entrances of these bases?

For ones with silos, You can leave teams inside the silos 24/7 to fire whatever they can out of the silos. But not all underground bases are silos. And if F-22’s dominate the skies dropping a PGM thru those silo doors isn’t tough as the are not ICBM hardened silos they are basically just holes carved into a mountain with a cover.

I would be surprised if all 20+!aren’t already know by intelligence services. After all many were found by OSINT members. Their entrances and construction create visible signatures from space that an AI algorithm could shift thru images and detect any new construction.

For example,the Vera Rubin telescope (largest digital telescope on earth) uses AI to parse thru 20 TB of images nightly looking for asteroids moving in the night sky that haven’t been documented. Now imagine what CIA or space force has access to. The era of hiding stuff in remote regions from satellites has come to a close. Maybe in a country the size of China, not in Iran with a very distinct topography.

I don’t like this direct confrontation with the U.S. because Iran is not set up well for losing its skies. Sure it could hit some installations and maybe even hit a few ships. But to what end? A shoot out with the U.S. is not something it can win. And mass killing of U.S. soldiers will only get people in Trumps base to be more pro war.

Not sure how IRGC is going to play this. It didn’t perform well when it was Israel vs Iran and Israel flying from 1200 miles away every day. How can we expect better performance against the U.S. that has far more airbases and a carrier fleet?

Not trying to be a Debbie downer. But these were the same concerns I had when we lost HZ and Syria.

If you sit and do the game theory mental exercise on this, there’s not a whole lot of options for iran here. The goal was having Iraq, Syria, Hamas, HZ, Houthis able to start a regional war. There’s really only the Houthi’s now. Iraq PMUs might do some rocket attacks but nothing they haven’t done in the past

 

[Watandar]

Here is the problem:

U.S. has 180 F-22’s. Even if we say a pathetic 50% are combat ready that’s still 90 F-22’s that could fly over Iran (not even counting the hundreds of F-35s).

How will the Iranian air defense team stop the F-22 from bombing the entrances of these bases?

For ones with silos, You can leave teams inside the silos 24/7 to fire whatever they can out of the silos. But not all underground bases are silos. And if F-22’s dominate the skies dropping a PGM thru those silo doors isn’t tough as the are not ICBM hardened silos they are basically just holes carved into a mountain with a cover.

I would be surprised if all 20+!aren’t already know by intelligence services. After all many were found by OSINT members. Their entrances and construction create visible signatures from space that an AI algorithm could shift thru images and detect any new construction.

For example,the Vera Rubin telescope (largest digital telescope on earth) uses AI to parse thru 20 TB of images nightly looking for asteroids moving in the night sky that haven’t been documented. Now imagine what CIA or space force has access to. The era of hiding stuff in remote regions from satellites has come to a close. Maybe in a country the size of China, not in Iran with a very distinct topography.

I don’t like this direct confrontation with the U.S. because Iran is not set up well for losing its skies. Sure it could hit some installations and maybe even hit a few ships. But to what end? A shoot out with the U.S. is not something it can win. And mass killing of U.S. soldiers will only get people in Trumps base to be more pro war.

Not sure how IRGC is going to play this. It didn’t perform well when it was Israel vs Iran and Israel flying from 1200 miles away every day. How can we expect better performance against the U.S. that has far more airbases and a carrier fleet?

Not trying to be a Debbie downer. But these were the same concerns I had when we lost HZ and Syria.

If you sit and do the game theory mental exercise on this, there’s not a whole lot of options for iran here. The goal was having Iraq, Syria, Hamas, HZ, Houthis able to start a regional war. There’s really only the Houthi’s now. Iraq PMUs might do some rocket attacks but nothing they haven’t done in the past

Hitting GCC energy terminals and Israel itself, that's the only play left in a war scenario. It would be legitimate too as this whole gang of US,Israel and GCC has been attacking Iran since 1979.

Personally I think the US won't go for full scale air campaign , I think the options to exercise now after failed June 2025 and Jan 2026 attempts, is to let loose Daesh and other groups in Iraq and on the other side, start seizing Iranian oil tankers.

 

[Immortals]

Naval blockade will happen it seems. Still theatrics because there is no end game to this.

The end game is either the Saddam-ifcation of Iran into a failed state or that IRGC will reimagine themselves and take over. You know how Trump has a soft spot for “strong powerful tough men” and he knows the IRGC are not Girl Scouts.

We routinely underestimate the West on here. This is the same group that went up against Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Khamenai next to those 3 might as well be junior varsity.

Iran wouldn’t send its FM to beg on Fox News if it wasn’t looking for off ramps. You think Xi or Putin would be sending their FMs to Fox News if the enemy was at the gates?

Iranian leadership only know how to beat on Democrat Presidents like Biden, Obama, Clinton, or Carter. Against Bush they were meek. Against Trump 1st term they spoke loudly but they shot 1 drone and boasted, then Trump assassinated Solemani and they realized that republicans don’t play that game.

The Epstein files are so damaging to Republicans (and some democrats) and Trump that effectively the foreign policy of U.S. is now driven by Bibi with respect to the Middle East.

So the end game is Iran’s currency continues to go down the drain, iran continues to fall behind on key technologies related to AGI. No the internet has been shutdown for over 2 weeks. Iran looks more like North Korea these days than a normal country.

 

[kastor ville]

Not exacly, "Israel" tried to do the same months before and failed miserably because Iran's air defense system stopped everything. With this in mind, "Israel" saw that it needed to destroy Iran's air defense system internally and using spies (who have been there for years) they deactivated several defense cells, in addition to helping kill Iranian military personnel and scientists, it was all done INTERNALLY(Iran's secret service even found drone factories within the country itself, drones manufactured by Mossad). After the initial CHAOS, then came the bombings but with a counterattack from Iran, "Israel " had to stop, and the government's plan to fall failed.
Many of these spies (including political and military areas) inside Iran remained in the post-war 12 days and were the ones who commanded the color revolution now of 2026. Iran managed to cut Starlink and other satellites and locate, kill and arrest several of them, which dealt a great blow to the CIA and MOSSAD, although they still have people there.
This way, a war over Iran is completely UNLIKELY now. War would have occurred if the color revolution had evolved and worked, but it flopped. Without insiders, without spies, without corruption, without betrayal, nothing works for the CIA and Mossad. Look at the case of the Chinese general who was passing nuclear information to the US... Venezuela, Iran, Iraq are full of infiltrators.

NOTE: After they do this with spies and infiltrators, in the media they invent a fake narrative that it was a miraculous technology that made the event happen.

The way you game Israel, is to watch its every move....and ask why? Why did it do that move? Then you can map out the different scenarios......if Iran had done that when they took out the Syrian Air defences, and then took out a bunch of S300s and radar installations on that same line, West of Iran...they would have arrived at the answer that they're about to mount a surprise attack.
Same with the US, why is there such a large naval presence all of a sudden? Only 2 logical reasons come to mind.....1. He wants options to attack when he decides, which means he hasn't took an attack off the table.....He still wants war of some kind.
2. Second conclusion is he wants to choke off oil sales.
Again if you're a good planner you come to the same conclusion, they want war.......