Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Back to 2019....same stupidity....and the story goes on.......

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Odd lie from him. He would know we were never trying to hit the target themselves but open areas next to them. I guess no one ever showed him the H4 footage.
 
so seems that intelligence was either faulty or indian paintjob

I find this especially suspicious because:
1. Indias not allowing france to audit rafales for some reason
2. Why were BS001 BS023 BS027 not shown in formation if youre flying the formation of sindoor..... very very very suspicious..
If it’s a paint job, we’ll soon find out cos Indians are stupid enough to paint up a BS001 too and that one is scrap without any shadow of a doubt.
 
Just typical Indians testing the water with their faked tail numbers. Standard psyops approach.

They have quietly released a "BS022" today.

Next month, they will sneak in another.

Finally, fake BS001 will proudly fly with a necklace of lemons and coconuts.

They're just doing it quietly and in a stepwise manner to try and avoid attention, ultimately hoping to turn around in a year or two and say: "What losses? All Rafales have been flying at various points in time since May 2025, see...look...look! Never mind the details...look at my montage of all planes flying!"

I'm sure the French are watching though.
Agreed. French may be watching but won’t say jack for obvious reasons
 
Pakistanis - Indians and the French may try to push a swiss paper as some source.

Please highlight the role of the “Translator” - Im sure that’s all he did with all his qualifications.

Benedict Smith is a test pilot and an assistant director at the French government

Flight Test Centre. He previously served in the French Air Force for 32 years, first in
operational squadrons, where he flew the Mirage 2000C, and later as an experi-
mental test pilot, taking part in the development of the Rafale. He was subsequently
assigned to various posts, including Defence Attaché to Greece and India, and later became Chief of Staff of the French military delegation to NATO. He is a graduate of the United States Naval Test Pilot School, the French War college and the National Defenses College in New Delhi. He holds an engineering degree from the École Poly-technique in Paris and a Master of Philosophy from the University of Madras.
That settles it

Are we surprised that India will look to shape their own narrative

What counts is professional interactions
 
There should have been more debris and structure damage. CM400 AKG has a huge amount of explosive power (2 tons of explosive power just due to kinetics).
I don't think it was CM-400. They will not be mounting an S-400 radar on a roof of a building. Possibly Fatah series missile strike, or a drone strike.
 
Agreed. French may be watching but won’t say jack for obvious reasons
The French are a slimy bunch. They may well acquiesce to IAF's special request. We saw Macron's pathetic text to Trump speaking of "great things on Iran". Goodness knows they still have wet dreams of conquering all "saracen lands". The French hide their true ambitions as a matter of course.
 
Even though someone may have proven destroyed C-130 story as Indian propaganda but here is my take on this.
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Great video, as always.
 
I am sure that there are many levels before nuclear comes in play and hopefully we never reach the last rung of that ladder.

I have one doubt though.

It is being claimed by majority of the Pak posters that Pakistan chose not to use even partial force of its conventional capabilities. They also believe that India panicked and used Brahmos while Munir didn’t use any of the similar missiles in ample with Pak forces. Why would India panic? Whatever loss of fighters happened was on the 7th. What happened later that no one has been able to bring out but was devastating for India?

All this with the premise, that Pakistan was displaying restraint all through while there were visible attacks across many Pak assets. In hindsight, it can be claimed that damage was not much in terms of losses, but at that time it wouldn’t have been known since it was a hot situation. Even then it was decided to let go?

Then, it is also well known that NCA meeting was called by Munir to signal nuclear angle. NCA approval or deliberations are not required for anything conventional. GHQ has full authority over conventional responses.

Why would nuclear signalling be used without using even the lowest rungs of conventional capabilities?

Was it because of reach and accuracy of Indian attack on 10th rattled the cage? Not in terms of total damage caused (as seen in hindsight) but in terms of number of places attacked accurately with relatively low number of precision weapons fired. Probably, it was realised that the conventional arms didn’t really have the capability as being claimed by many. Otherwise there is no other plausible explanation.

Not likely to be a very popular observation but definitely one that needs a rethink by quite a few here.
NCA is not only for nuclear war, it oversees/approves all war plans
 
He is right, costs should not be limited to just military or terrorist hubs but the nation itself.

In sync with the IWT approach.
Like the land losses to China? when will you guys learn to look at things from a broader perspective? The main reason of Indian military and political failures has always been looking at things in isolation.
 
@Panzerkiel
This one is especially for you to comment on ,
Simon Whistler obviously has a bias but the video below has some interesting projections. including the revival of the '80's era Sundarji doctrine.

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