Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mehdipersian]

Welcom back. Nice to see you were not killed along with the 80 million Iranians killed by the foreign agents of the Ayatollahs!

But apart from the joke,on January 8th, I came across these innocent protesters by chance.

There were about 100 people with their faces covered and they had swords, Molotov cocktails and guns, and they were destroying the street and burning a mosque.

I immediately drove away from that point. I hope the security forces killed all these infidel terrorists.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

If America dares to attack, we have been waiting for a long time to see the film of their ships sinking . Watching destruction of Jewish towns is also our eternal dream.

Unfortunately, oil wells in the region will burn too

Great! good luck. But why didn't you do that when US B-2 Bombers wiped out nuclear facilities of Iran that Iran had worked on for decades, Iran even complied with intl demands throughout. Iran spent decades on those, spent billions over those and US wiped them off. I wonder what kind of losses Iran inflicted back to US in response then ?

 

[Mehdipersian]

Great! good luck. But why didn't you do that when US B-2 Bombers wiped out nuclear facilities of Iran that Iran had worked on for decades, Iran even complied with intl demands throughout. Iran spent decades on those, spent billions over those and US wiped them off. I wonder what kind of losses Iran inflicted back to US in response then ?

Iran's nuclear facilities are not mock-ups available to the IAEA
The Americans lied about the damage they suffered at Al-Udeid base, as usual. 6 missiles hit the base.

 

[kastor ville]

now the only question is, who really controls the Hormuz?

is it really IR!

It's pretty evident by that message sent. The term "Harshly" is a direct reference to closure of the strait of hormuz.
Now, here's the second problem that I hope does not go unnoticed.... Closure of the strait of hormuz by itself is not enough. That would only lead to 3-5 dollars of barrel of oil rise... That's not a crisis. The closure of the strait in conjunction of bombing UAE gas terminals and the backup pipeline will send the energy markets into a shock...while we're at it, I would hit Bahrain too. That's the message that should be sent to the US.
Oil prices would spike $50- $75 per barrel. And the longer the conflict goes on, the higher the price will climb.... Remember it's winter in Europe
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[Watandar]

But apart from the joke,on January 8th, I came across these innocent protesters by chance.

There were about 100 people with their faces covered and they had swords, Molotov cocktails and guns, and they were destroying the street and burning a mosque.

I immediately drove away from that point. I hope the security forces killed all these infidel terrorists.

Wow , I am glad you drove away quickly and are safe.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Iran's nuclear facilities are not mock-ups available to the IAEA
The Americans lied about the damage they suffered at Al-Udeid base, as usual. 6 missiles hit the base.

Incorrect, otherwise media would have caught them lying. Any satellite photos would have come. EU, Russia, China too have satellite imagery available. No one showed any impact at all.

US is not Israel. US is a different ball game. US can completely destroy any nation on earth without consequences except Russia & China. The reason Iran gave only mild symbolic response is because Iran do not want to face US war machine.

And you can't possibly hide nuclear facilities when they have all eyes at you. and even according to you guys yourself your own people 1000s of them are Zionist agents (killed protestors) ? , So if they have that level of infiltration on top of eyes in skies, then why on earth you think you were able to keep some secret nuclear facilities? US/Israel went for nuclear threat and they eliminated it. Iran should have gone for nuclear weapon and its testing long ago, just like what north koreans did. Your govt choose to collaborate with west and see the results yourself.

 

[Liquidator]

But apart from the joke,on January 8th, I came across these innocent protesters by chance.

There were about 100 people with their faces covered and they had swords, Molotov cocktails and guns, and they were destroying the street and burning a mosque.

I immediately drove away from that point. I hope the security forces killed all these infidel terrorists.

Thanks for Sharing brother

We wish Iran well

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

It's pretty evident by that message sent. The term "Harshly" is a direct reference to closure of the strait of hormuz.
Now, here's the second problem that I hope does not go unnoticed.... Closure of the strait of hormuz by itself is not enough. That would only lead to 3-5 dollars of barrel of oil rise... That's not a crisis. The closure of the strait in conjunction of bombing UAE gas terminals and the backup pipeline will send the energy markets into a shock...while we're at it, I would hit Bahrain too. That's the message that should be sent to the US.
Oil prices would spike $50- $75 per barrel. And the longer the conflict goes on, the higher the price will climb.... Remember it's winter in Europe.

another point is, during all that, suppose IR takes one of the key ships, bleeds down stocks of SM3 and AD missiles and also manages to significantly neutralize (not completely destory aircraft carrier), where does that leave US Navy in this region and South China sea...

toll on the US economy would be immense, shockwaves of which will be hard to manage for years to come!

 

[kastor ville]

another point is, during all that, suppose IR takes one of the key ships, bleeds down stocks of SM3 and AD missiles and also manages to significantly neutralize (not completely destory aircraft carrier), where does that leave US Navy in this region and South China sea...

toll on the US economy would be immense, shockwaves of which will be hard to manage for years to come!

I've said this before attacking American war ships or bases is a fool's errand.....we should focus on the real enemy...ISRAEL and UAE. Qatar is also playing a dangerous game...but we're friendly with them. SA has turned the page with Iran...I genuinely think their foreign minister knows the dangers posed by Israel and UAE to the region...we must do everything we can to ally ourselves with SA.

 

[Liquidator]

I've said this before attacking American war ships or bases is a fool's errand.....we should focus on the real enemy...ISRAEL and UAE. Qatar is also playing a dangerous game...but we're friendly with them. SA has turned the page with Iran...I genuinely think their foreign minister knows the dangers posed by Israel and UAE to the region...we must do everything we can to ally ourselves with SA.

Agreed

American terrorism is on behalf of Israel.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

I'm not doubting the capabilities, but the will of IRI to issue an order to sink a USN ship, they can even sink a carrier, Iran has the capabilities, the doubt part is appetite to do so

A carrier holds near 100 aircrafts and 5000+ sailors. Its protected by multiple layers. Also such a powerful ship like carrier cannot be sunk by few missile hits. Its built at first place to with stand multiple hits. Only things that can sunk a carrier is heavy torpedoes Or tactical nuclear tipped missile.

Also the Will of IRI not issuing such order is pretty much related to kind of destruction US will unleash if supposedly Iran manages to sunk one.

 

[OldTwilight]

without power to strike usa mainland , this eventually turn to one sided battle.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

A carrier holds near 100 aircrafts and 5000+ sailors. Its protected by multiple layers. Also such a powerful ship like carrier cannot be sunk by few missile hits. Its built at first place to with stand multiple hits. Only things that can sunk a carrier is heavy torpedoes Or tactical nuclear tipped missile.

Also the Will of IRI not issuing such order is pretty much related to kind of destruction US will unleash if supposedly Iran manages to sunk one.

these are the lies they feed you

destroy the radar and infra. on the deck, they will never again bring carrier

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

without power to strike usa mainland , this eventually turn to one sided battle.

it was not a one sided battle even in Iraq when death toll was 1 to 10 on daily basis

 

[tsunset]

A carrier holds near 100 aircrafts and 5000+ sailors. Its protected by multiple layers. Also such a powerful ship like carrier cannot be sunk by few missile hits. Its built at first place to with stand multiple hits. Only things that can sunk a carrier is heavy torpedoes Or tactical nuclear tipped missile.

Also the Will of IRI not issuing such order is pretty much related to kind of destruction US will unleash if supposedly Iran manages to sunk one.

Iran has thousands of those C-802 like missiles which some have a range of 600+km and can be launched from F-4 or Su-22

Probably hundreds of Persian Gulf AshBM and Hormuz-2 anti radiation AshBM which would be devastating if one Hormuz-2 hits a carrier

They are largely capable of breaking a carrier in two then sinking it, keep hitting it when USN tries to rescue the sailors, this will guarantee at least hundreds of casualties

Houthis only launched small salvos of them (not more than 3), Iran can launch a massive amount of them at the same time to guarantee at least some impacts

IRGCN has the same missile cities layout but for coastal defense, stored underground and launchers disguised as civilian truck will facilitate their survivability

If Iran really wants to sink a carrier, it can, but sinking their destroyers or cruisers will be easier considering it can achieve a chain explosion reaction by hitting the VLS area like Ukraine did on Russian cruiser