Bangladesh will not play T20 World Cup games in India over safety concerns

[RamBharose]

Aren't they going to face any security threats? What might be the logic behind giving permission to one team while rejecting the other?

Ram ram ji,

The government mentioned that the team is smaller and the competition will be a secure venue.

Also, I doubt many Indians will be able to recognise the Bangladeshi shooters and they will also be armed with firearms to defend themselves in case of any emergency.

 

[Master Chief]

Ram ram ji,

I have seen the narrative inside some Bangladeshi media that Fizz Sahab was released by KKR because they were instructed to do so by the BCCI for security reasons. This is not true. The BCCI never specified the exact reason for this decision, only using vague terms like "recent developments " and "overall circumstances ". Even if you look for the real reason, it has more to do with economics than security. The BCCI was more concerned about negative publicity and backlash from fans and advertisers than about any physical security risk to Fizz Sahab when they made the decision. They have seen how Bollywood films that have Pakistani actors often face boycotts from certain sections of fans and how Maldives, Azerbaijan and Turkey were boycotted as tourism destinations. That is also the reason players from Pakistan are not allowed in the IPL. There is a constituency in India that does not want to see people and companies from countries seen as inimical to India benefit from economic activity in India and Fizz Sahab's participation was a casualty to them, and not to any actual threat to his physical security.

Then they had no grounds to make this decision.

Either way, Hindustan has defrauded its neighbour's player and deprived him of a rightful IPL spot.

 

[Master Chief]

TIMES OF INDIA: The Bangladesh government on Wednesday cleared its shooting team to travel to India for next month’s Asian Rifle and Pistol Championships, even as it recently refused permission for the national cricket team to take part in the T20 World Cup in India citing "security concerns".


I guess they must be carrying their rifles and pistols with them. Hence, no security risk for the players.

Is India coming to the South Asia Games next year? Has sindoor's trading value decreased sufficiently to allow this?

 

[hussain0216]

So for playoffs Pakistan will then boycott India??? Ridiculous reasoning of f@ujeet cuck slaves...

You just look after your Afghanistan team, and don't bother us

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@RamBharose

Good news for fans of the Bangladesh shooting team.

I suppose the GoBD has a poor opinion of the shooting ability of the Indians.

Regards

 

[RamBharose]

Then they had no grounds to make this decision.

Either way, Hindustan has defrauded its neighbour's player and deprived him of a rightful IPL spot.

Ram ram ji,

IPL and KKR are both commercial organisations driven by profit motive, so they made the decision on commercial grounds.

Fizz Sahab was picked up by KKR rather than any other franchise team because he has the largest following in Kolkata as compared to the home grounds of the other teams and KKR was best placed to monetise his popularity. When he became a financial liability instead of an asset because of the potential backlash, they acted in the best interests of their shareholders and dropped him.

As for the right to play in the IPL, no one including Indian stars has an automatic "right" to get paid millions of dollars for playing a few low pressure games of pajama cricket. They get paid if their teams think they are a worthwhile investment and don't if they think they are not.

Unfortunately for Fizz Sahab, diplomatic tensions between India and Bangladesh adversely affected his commercial value to IPL and KKR.

 

[Vikramaditya1]

Pakistan to host South Asian Games in March next year

India’s participation in the Games will depend on the stance of its government.

www.dawn.com

The world moves on, despite Hindustani tantrums about "tensions".

Pakistan can and will host sporting events.

Will India boycott the South Asian Games? Or will sindoor's market value decline yet again?

Maybe India should drop out given it's held in Pakistan and last time your atheletes were caught doping so this time it'll be doping galore adding to the fact that it's held in home turf.

That besides if India dropped out it'll be better for the others so that the medal tally won't look one-sided.

 

[Master Chief]

Ram ram ji,

IPL and KKR are both commercial organisations driven by profit motive, so they made the decision on commercial grounds.

Fizz Sahab was picked up by KKR rather than any other franchise team because he has the largest following in Kolkata as compared to the home grounds of the other teams and KKR was best placed to monetise his popularity. When he became a financial liability instead of an asset because of the potential backlash, they acted in the best interests of their shareholders and dropped him.

As for the right to play in the IPL, no one including Indian stars has an automatic "right" to get paid millions of dollars for playing a few low pressure games of pajama cricket. They get paid if their teams think they are a worthwhile investment and don't if they think they are not.

Unfortunately for Fizz Sahab, diplomatic tensions between India and Bangladesh adversely affected his commercial value to IPL and KKR.

1. Kindly desist from making unsubstantiated claims.

2. If security cannot be provided for a sportsperson, this is a reflection of two things (a) the inability of uneducated and uncivilised crowds to desist from hooliganism, regardless of whether a tournament is "privately funded" or otherwise, and (b) inadequate security arrangements to deal with such hooligans.

You have demonstrated a simple lack of understanding that in commercial sports, even private leagues and franchise leagues are governed by national regulatory frameworks.

Do you actually think, for example, that the threat of hooliganism in the English Premier League, REGARDLESS OF ANY UNDERLYING POLITICAL PSEUDO-JUSTIFICATION, will be tolerated in England, or will be acceptable as just cause for terminating a player's contract?

By all means, individual fans can "boycott" a player to their hearts content, but political motivations should not negate a contracted agreement between a private club and a sportsman.

There are governance regulations in place that explicitly prohibit such acts. Bd might wish to pursue this matter further.

As for you, if you do not understand matters related to sports governance, it is best not to embarrass yourself with contrived ululations.

 

[Master Chief]

Maybe India should drop out given it's held in Pakistan and last time your atheletes were caught doping so this time it'll be doping galore adding to the fact that it's held in home turf.

That besides if India dropped out it'll be better for the others so that the medal tally won't look one-sided.

We don't care how you justify it to yourself. You should drop out because athletics medals don't flow with spilled sindoor.

 

[RamBharose]

1. Kindly desist from making unsubstantiated claims.

2. If security cannot be provided for a sportsperson, this is a reflection of two things (a) the inability of uneducated and uncivilised crowds to desist from hooliganism, regardless of whether a tournament is "privately funded" or otherwise, and (b) inadequate security arrangements to deal with such hooligans.

You have demonstrated a simple lack of understanding that in commercial sports, even private leagues and franchise leagues are governed by national regulatory frameworks.

Do you actually think, for example, that the threat of hooliganism in the English Premier League, REGARDLESS OF ANY UNDERLYING POLITICAL PSEUDO-JUSTIFICATION, will be tolerated in England, or will be acceptable as just cause for terminating a player's contract?

By all means, individual fans can "boycott" a player to their hearts content, but political motivations should not negate a contracted agreement between a private club and a sportsman.

There are governance regulations in place that explicitly prohibit such acts. Bd might wish to pursue this matter further.

As for you, if you do not understand matters related to sports governance, it is best not to embarrass yourself with contrived ululations.

Truly, I am humbled by the great ululations of knowledge and wisdom, which I am sadly incapable of comprehending, springing forth from your esteemed being.

I have only expressed by understanding of the situation based on my limited understanding of the legal principles applicable to the case. I am sure if Fizz Saab and the BCB have been violated, they will be sure to take the India parties responsible to task and sue them for millions in compensatory and punitive damages after consulting great luminaries of the law such as yourself.

 

[r3alist]

Wasim for all his seam and swing ability never dominated the best teams of his era, never single handedly won Pakistan any test matches leave alone test series, a la Imran or Fazal. Wasim for majority of his career the second best bowler on his own team leave alone the number one bowler in the world. His contemporaries were Marshall, Ambrose, Headley, McGrath, three of these were seam and swing bowlers. All them were world beaters champion bowlers who dominated the top teams and destroyed oppositions and superior bowlers to Wasim the fixer.

Wtf is dis sheet.

Clown opinion.

 

[Baibers_1260]

Truly, I am humbled by the great ululations of knowledge and wisdom, which I am sadly incapable of comprehending, springing forth from your esteemed being.

I have only expressed by understanding of the situation based on my limited understanding of the legal principles applicable to the case. I am sure if Fizz Saab and the BCB have been violated, they will be sure to take the India parties responsible to task and sue them for millions in compensatory and punitive damages after consulting great luminaries of the law such as yourself.

Ram Bharoseji
जय सिया राम

Is sports related only to money and entertainment?
Do enemy nations at war play sports?

Would like to have your opinion on the following parallels.

(a) Indira Gandhi banned all sporting and all cultural exchanges with Pakistan from 1970-1978. Pakistan reciprocated in good measure, There were no cricket matches played through Pakistan and India did play one hockey match in the Olympics.

(b) The Soviet Union's 1980 Moscow Olympics was boycotted by all Western nations because of the Soviet-Afghan war

(c) South Africa was barred from International cricket until the apartheid policies were changed.

(d) Russia has been blocked from the Olympics, FIFA World Cup, Ice Hockey, and all international sports because if the Ukraine war,

(e) Arab nations that have diplomatic relations with Israel do not invite Israel's sports teams for sporting events over security concerns.

Why must India, Pakistan and Bangladesh force sporting events on their respective populations given the fact that these three nations are officially enemy nations at war with no ambassadors present in their respective embassies which are closed for practical purposes?

Which enemy nations continue playing sports while bombing and firing missiles at each other?
Having a desire to play sports with an enemy can best be described by the appropriate Sanskrit word निर्लज्ज , which is roughly translated as shameless or in Urdu بیغیرت ۔

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Baibers_1260

Are IND, PAK, BD (any two-nation combo) at war right now? Wasn't aware of that.

Regards

 

[RamBharose]

Ram Bharoseji
जय सिया राम

Is sports related only to money and entertainment?
Do enemy nations at war play sports?

Would like to have your opinion on the following parallels.

(a) Indira Gandhi banned all sporting ( and all cultural exchanges ) with Pakistan from 1970-1978. Pakistan reciprocated in good measure, There were no cricket matches played through Pakistan and India did play one hockey match in the Olympics.

(b) The Soviet Union's 1980 Moscow Olympics was boycotted by all Western nations because of the Soviet-Afghan war

(c) South Africa was barred from International cricket until the apartheid policies were changed.

(d) Russia has been blocked from the Olympics, FIFA World Cup, Ice Hockey, and all international sports because if the Ukraine war,

(e) Arab nations that have diplomatic relations with Israel do not invite Israel's sports teams for sporting events over security concerns.

Why must India, Pakistan and Bangladesh force sporting events on their respective populations given the fact that these three nations are officially enemy nations at war with no ambassadors present in their respective embassies which are closed for practical purposes?

Which enemy nations continue playing sports while bombing and firing missiles at each other?

Ram ram Baibers_1260 ji,

I believe one should compare apples with apples. The examples you have quoted are all of national teams boycotting international events because of political positions taken by their governments, which is their sovereign right. Since I believe that, I also believe that the governments of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh would be justified in taking a political decision to boycott sports events against countries they consider to be enemies.

However, though you have not raised the issue, I would like to point out that the IPL is a tamasha cricket league and not some international sports event. The BCB does not have any standing regarding how the IPL conducts itself, just like the BCCI would have no standing regarding private cricket leagues in Pakistan or Bangladesh.

So, while, in principle, I support the right of the Bangladesh government to ask its national team not to play in or against India if it considers it in the national interest, I am perplexed about the premise they are using to justify it in the present instance.

 

[r3alist]

@Baibers_1260

Are IND, PAK, BD (any two-nation combo) at war right now? Wasn't aware of that.

Regards

Well yes, your operation is open.