Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakSword]

You know the one big advantage that Trump has over Chinese leader and other world leaders is Trump is absolutely totally shameless, he uses every possible dirty trick and means to achieve his goals as shown in his war on Iran now that any treaty, promise and trust reached with him means nothing, no hold barred for him. It's really difficult to work and live with this kind person.

Yep, the Chinese leaders are bound with morality and principles, and you can't expect the frequent visitor of the Epstein island can follow the same.

Name an American president except Abraham Lincoln who was/is not shameless and unethical. Some day JFK was the one and that's why he died.

 

[That_Guy]

I hate this war (and any war) as much as anyone. But running out of 'ammo' is not an issue. If they ever run out of smart (precision) ammo, that is expensive and time consuming to make, they have enough dumb ammo to saturate Iran one foot deep. Hoping to run out of ammo is a dumb strategy. Also, dumb ammo is easier to produce than hamburger.

Dumb ammo against a standing army, with no ground support is useless.

 

[GWXP]

US wants to rule the world and views China, Russia and Iran as a challenge to global hegemony.

Currently, Russia is bogged down in Ukraine, while China is incapable of invading Taiwan and US has to solve Iran's nuclear issue militarily BEFORE China becomes too powerful and Russia rebuilds its military.

Trump says this war with Iran will last for 5 weeks. US and Israel have 580 fighters in the region, but only 377 of them can conduct sorties against Iran with the rest being in maintenance cycles.

Lets assume 377 US and Israeli fighters conduct 0,4 sorties per day for 15 days (due to US bases being under attacks from Iran and due to Iran's air defenses) and after US suppresses Iran's air defenses these 377 fighters will conduct 0,7 sorties per day for 20 days.

So in total US and Israel can conduct 7.540 sorties against Iran in 35 days and with 1,5 targets destroyed per sortie US and Israel can destroy 11.310 targets in Iran with 22.620 JDAM munitions (10% of total JDAM stockpile).

Iran has around 4.000 ballistic missiles + 1.000 cruise missiles + 15.000 drones. With 50 ballistic missile launches per day and with 10 cruise missile launches per day and with 215 drone launches per day, Iran can destroy 3.100 targets over 35 days.

And still Iran will be left with 2.300 ballistic missiles, 650 cruise missiles and 7.500 drones.

So its US and Israel destroying 11.300 targets over 35 days and Iran destroying 3.100 targets over 35 days.

And if there is a full-scale war, US can bring in 2500 fighters of which 1600 fighters are combat ready with the rest being in maintenance cycles.

US has around 250.000 JDAMs and SDBs but US has to keep at least 100.000 of this as reserves for the European and Asian theatres. So US can use 150.000 PGMs against Iran destroying 75.000 buildings and structures in Iran with 50.000 sorties conducted by US military with 1600 fighters over 45 days.

In a full scale war US can destroy 75.000 targets in Iran before running out of stockpiles of PGMs, while Iran can destroy 6.500 targets across the region.

So in a limited 35 days war both sided will exchange strikes with US and Israel striking more than Iran.

In a full-scale war Iran will lay in ruins with 75.000 targets destroyed and Gulf oil infastructure destroyed and Strait of Hormuz closed with consequences for US economy being additional 5trln$ added to the Federal debt in 4 years and US economy being thrown behind by 5 years due to oil shock.

 

[EugeneP]

Its a trope!
He's a professional swindler!
Who knew the worst guy in the office would be a realtor though to be fair we haven't tried a used car salesman yet.
Zuon rubs its feet on his orange face!

Both can be true. Bibi can be a swindler, and we know Trump is charlatan. It is not difficult to make him a mark. Look at everyone giving him 'awards' to curry favor. A 12-year-old will be angry if you give him a fake prize to make him do something.

 

[That_Guy]

If you mean by low on ammo being on track with expectations then yes us is “low”

Lol, id rather listen to the experts.

 

[KingQamaR]

They didn't have real combat capability. IRIN did well saving crew lives. Something similar with IRIAF has happen. Islamic Republic would eventually send to death any F5/Kowsar pilot.

During Gulf war 1, Saddam would send his best jets and some ships to Iran, who was his enemy and had been to war with. MAYBE, Iran could do same send jets and ships to Pakistan for safety.

 

[That_Guy]

You mean anti-missile systems ammo? We haven't ran out but put most of it in Israel

But general categories of ammunition, there is no way.

Israel can likely sustain 4 weeks without suffering any substantial damage. Because US placed so much missile systems there.

GCC can only sustain 1-2 weeks, imo.

No, and no.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Iranian drone is trying to reach Tel Aviv

Almost there lol

Now it's shot down :/

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[EugeneP]

Dumb ammo against a standing army, with no ground support is useless.

All the bombing in WW2, Vietnam, Korea was dumb. Smart came only with 1991 Gulf war. Dumb is ugly, very, very ugly. But will do the job.

 

[Falcon29]

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[That_Guy]

All the bombing in WW2, Vietnam, Korea was dumb. Smart came only with 1991 Gulf war. Dumb is ugly, very, very ugly. But will do the job.

With ground support backing it.

Read my post carefully.

An air campaign relying on dumb munitions, without ground support, are guaranteed to fail. There has never been an instance in history such a scenario has succeeded.

 

[ety]

Name an American president except Abraham Lincoln who was/is not shameless and unethical. Some day JFK was the one and that's why he died.

Some might argue such as Carter and Ford were decent men.

 

[maxpane]

Pakistan will sell them to Israel

RIP
@RescueRanger just look at it.

 

[Falcon29]

Religious virgins want to blow up the world to trigger end times bcz hypergamy has left men frustrated and they want proof 72 hoor-al-ayn in next life are real

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[EugeneP]

Not sure how much is true or storytelling. But an interesting read.

Revealed: Mossad hacked every traffic camera in Tehran for YEARS... how Israel and America sealed the fate of the ayatollah​

Mossad operatives hacked into Tehran's traffic camera network to spy on Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, his bodyguards and other top Iranian officials for years before his assassination, according to a report.

Israel gained access to almost all the city's cameras, which are used extensively by Iran to spy on regime opponents and its own population, and tracked the movements of key bodyguards.

Images were said to be transmitted back to Tel Aviv and southern Israel, allowing Mossad to develop intimate knowledge on the guards' addresses, work schedules, and who they were assigned to protect.

Revealed: Mossad hacked every traffic camera in Tehran for YEARS

Israel gained access to almost all the city's cameras, which are used extensively by Iran to spy on regime opponents and its own population, and tracked the movements of bodyguards.

www.dailymail.co.uk