Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fatman17]

One week into the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran, Donald Trump faces a growing list of risks and challenges that raise questions about whether he will be able to translate military successes into a clear geopolitical win.

Even after the killing of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and devastating blows against Iranian forces on land, at sea and in the air, the crisis has widened into a regional conflict that threatens a more prolonged U.S. military engagement with fallout beyond Trump’s control.

Trump, who came to office promising to keep the U.S. out of "stupid” military interventions, is now pursuing what many experts see as an open-ended war of choice unprompted by any imminent threat to the U.S. from Iran, despite claims to the contrary by the president and his aides https://reut.rs/4stPm5d

 

[VCheng]

You spend countless hours tracking and compiling US aircraft the region - tracking where they land and their callsign and roles - present it in a professional spreadsheet only for someone on PDF to shit all over your work with a post like this:

It was just a simple question.

I gave an example of whether these numbers are enough to force Iran to surrender, or not, if that is the goal? Hence, whether these numbers, so painstakingly compiled, are "enough" or not, depend on the goals for which said aircraft are been assembled.

Perfectly valid.

 

[Fatman17]

The video begins with a scene from "Call of Duty." It cuts to images of fighter jets launching from an aircraft carrier, missiles streaking through the sky and targets exploding in slow motion - set to Childish Gambino's song "Bonfire" and a deep-voiced narrator declaring, "We're winning this fight."

A 14-second video posted by the White House account features military explosions interspersed with SpongeBob SquarePants repeatedly saying: “Wanna see me do it again?”

The videos are part of a social-media push ‌the Trump administration has launched to sell its bombing campaign against Iran to the American public. Critics say these videos and more amount to a distasteful "gamification" of a war in which U.S. service members and Iranian civilians have been killed https://reut.rs/46OfHmh

 

[hasssanali8998]

big nose activities in oslo
possibly to make europe enter this war too

 

[Fatman17]

Saudi Arabia has told Tehran that while it favours a diplomatic settlement to Iran's conflict with the United States, continued attacks on the kingdom and its energy sector could push Riyadh to respond in kind, four sources familiar with the matter told Reuters reut.rs/4bw2UaA

 

[EugeneP]

It was just a simple question.

I gave an example of whether these numbers are enough to force Iran to surrender, or not, if that is the goal? Hence, whether these numbers, so painstakingly compiled, are "enough" or not, depend on the goals for which said aircraft are been assembled.

Perfectly valid.

I think 'numbers' and 'surrender' are unrelated. Trump and Netanyahu will be happy to end the campaign if missile and drone launches fall to zero. What will they do if Iran surrenders? Will they hang around and form a new government? We know how well that worked out in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pete Hegseth is dead set against that.

 

[Fatman17]

Iran's hierarchy is showing signs of fracturing over a war its leaders see as existential, with angry divisions between hardliners and more pragmatic factions laid bare by a row over President Masoud Pezeshkian's promise not to strike Gulf states.

Sources close to Iran's leadership, speaking from inside the country, told Reuters the strains were starting to show among leading figures still alive after a series of killings in the US-Israeli strikes. In a sign of the growing stresses to the system, clerics are now accelerating the appointment of a new supreme leader with a decision possible on Sunday reut.rs/3NdhzhD

 

[Immortals]

 

[VCheng]

I think 'numbers' and 'surrender' are unrelated.

The "analysis" claimed the numbers of planes tabulated are "enough". For what, exactly, was the quesiton I posed.

Clearly, they are NOT "enough" to force a surrender from Iran.

 

[Shags101]

big nose activities in oslo
possibly to make europe enter this war too

…..I thought many were involved one way or the other if not helping out offensively are helping to defend from retaliatory Iranian attacks but until any actual information comes out could honestly be nothing but a flat tire….not saying it is but it could be absolutely nothing sinister

 

[ToddE]

The Jew's extreme level censorship out of fear of being exposed is so frustrating. We literally have no idea what is going on there except reports coming out of mass casualties and rubble.

Only way to frustrate them will be baiting claims by IRGC's media wing that we know 2-3K Jews have died etc. May to disprove it, Jews might take the bait and open things but right now they are literally arresting people filming.

 

[brainsucker]

^ 2 hours ago

Wow, my suspicious of Azerbaijan in my previous post in this forum seems has it's validity. I thought that maybe the ground troops that Trump and Netayahu wants would be Azerbaijan. But looking at this development, it can be true in the near future.

 

[Shags101]

I’m honestly truly surprised we haven’t heard of Iranian sabotage attacks in a few of these gcc countries especially like Bahrain I would have thought Iran would have been able to have Quds men in small numbers in many of these countries ready to cause havoc

 

[Immortals]

 

[ToddE]

IRI's current strategy of good cop bad cop seems to be played by 4 corners of Iranian establishment, Soft Pezeshkian for regional diplomacy, cold and straight faced Araghchi for back door channeling and media, firm Larijani and IRGC delivering almost mechanical statements of what missile going where.

No more bragging about this tech and that missile, no more extreme level statements, no more fiery speeches. May be too late but its better than previous gen of IRI.