Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Jugantor]

The question I asked is who gets to claim "victory".

(I have no problems accepting the fact that Trump failed to achieve what he initially set out to do with this ill-advised war.)

I refer you to the original answer.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

War will probably end in a few days and Trump is going to claim victory by sinking some ships and killing Khamenei

Lol remember there are two parties to this conflict... Without strait of Hormuz open he cant declare victory... He can't get strait of Hormuz open by killing another supreme leader of Iran and thinking its gonna be over... Trump is personality who can throw Israel under the bus if had to protect his image... Remember that

 

[Jugantor]

I don't like Diet Coke.

Well! 2/3 is not bad!

 

[BeingHuman]

I guess we will have to wait for the Prrss meet and the deal details of the ceasefire (if it at all happens, which I have serious doubts) to know if it was a chess move or pure absurdity of the Orange king.

Really a ceasefire at this point would mean nothing for iran but everything for satanic cult gcc and the parasitic colonies. They should withdraw all 3x CSG , pack up their filth and gtfo this region

 

[Blain2]

Arabs (UAE specifically) claim Iranian land, not the other way around. The US used Arab territory in Kuwait and Bahrain to attack Iran with HIMARS. That means arabs allowed it or could not disallow it. If arab states can establish actual control over the territory and become sovereign nations, then there are no issues.

By territorial integrity, I am suggesting not launching missiles at their territory.

They may have land disputes but those can be talked about.

Remember, all of their (GCC-Iran) past conflicts were prior to experiencing the pain right now. This goes for the GCC and it goes for Iran. In light of what is going on today, those issues look minor unless they continue to insist on carrying on with the past.

The famous fable "The Four Oxen and the Lion" comes to mind. If they can see where this current trajectory is going, maybe then can discuss terms and mend fences and not let Israel/US play the spoiler.

Perhaps it's too late but clearly the case of being preyed upon one at a time is in play.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I guess we will have to wait for the Prrss meet and the deal details of the ceasefire (if it at all happens, which I have serious doubts) to know if it was a chess move or pure absurdity of the Orange king.

Well, when this is over perhaps we will go back to more pressing issues such as making maps more gay:

Congressman grills State Department official over ‘embarrassing’ Biden-Era grants to make maps 'more gay'

Republican Florida Rep. Brian Mast grilled a State Department official who admitted she didn't know how to 'make maps more gay' during a tense congressional hearing.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

I usually read and don't post. However I have to break my read only stance to doff the cap. The heart and balls on Iran are insanely big. Lion nation full of lion hearted people.

Americans here, wrote IR off, on the first fay!

in favor of?!

good luck Arabs!

 

[VCheng]

pyrrhic victory for Iran.
They survived to live another day

of course Trump, he needs it, after massacre of innocent women and children

they murdered more than 1,000 civilians, for what exactly?

and on the zios side, many civilians also got killed, for what?!!!

The problem here is that if Iran still is under sanctions, then its economic recovery would be an even bigger issue than before, and with Trump claiming victory, unless he accepts a ceasefire, he can launch a raid or three whenever he feels like it.

That does not feel like an end to anything, or a victory for anyone, in any real sense of the word.

 

[VCheng]

I refer you to the original answer.

.... to a question I did not ask. Useless.

 

[Jugantor]

Lol remember there are two parties to this conflict... Without strait of Hormuz open he cant declare victory... He can't get strait of Hormuz open by killing another supreme leader of Iran and thinking its gonna be over... Trump is personality who can throw Israel under the bus if had to protect his image... Remember that

Iran should let the Strait open as long as Gulfies accept the new reality of Iran as boss.

But Iran should keep pounding until the Nazi state is pulverised.

 

[BeingHuman]

The problem here is that if Iran still is under sanctions, then its economic recovery would be an even bigger issue than before, and with Trump claiming victory, unless he accepts a ceasefire, he can launch a riad or three whenver he feels like it.

That does not feel like an end to anything, or a victory for anyone, in any real sense of the word.

If it controls the strait the way it is doing gcc will have to pay tickets for their exports and iran can build with that money. Jagga tax

 

[Desert]

what is Egypt position we have not heard much ?

99% of our popultion is with Iran .. there is a war between Egyptians and gulf countries people .. we stand with iran and they want to deport Egyptians from gulf countries lol.

however our regime is silent , they did condemn the iranian attacks on gulf countries but they are afraid houthis may close suez canal again so they did shut up haha

 

[iron shrapnel]

Could this be over before HMS Dragon leaves port, or gets to Cyprus ? (amusing).

HMS Dragon as soon as it leaves port ( it was weekend and the missiles went on strike )

 

[Aggregate]

Meanwhile all of the Simpletons in US Midwest / South would be crying their lungs out in the Churches, asking for "divine support" for the "chosen people", as well as for Trump, for helping them.

 

[Desert]

same as that of KSA, probably, as KSA funds Egypt

hmm not exatly.