Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

Even as both sides seem to dig in and casualties and damages mount, one still hopes for back channel diplomacy delivering a ceasefire as soon as possible.

Wars never last forever, after all. Therefore, there must be an end found to this present conflict too.

 

[Watandar]

Even as both sides seem to dig in and casualties and damages mount, one still hopes for back channel diplomacy delivering a ceasefire as soon as possible.

Wars never last forever, after all. Therefore, there must be an end found to this present conflict too.

Problem is one side, the US wants this to end quickly , one side the Israelis are happy for it to go on, and one side the Iranians need it to go on long enough to inflict enough military, economic and political punishment that it is not hit again in 6 to 12 months time. Very complicated.

 

[Arash]

You have to understand that in opposition with China or northern asian countries, India doesn't have an economy based on manufacturing, only on services. Hence they are heavily dependent on the u.s. and Europe.

 

[TallGuy]

netenyahu is so dead!

 

[Aad80]

American and Israeli demons are just bombing civilian infrastructure now. I hope those cursed anti Khamenei Iranians are happy that Israel and the US are turning their country into Gaza. IRAN MUST RETURN THE FAVOR ASAP !!!!!!

 

[VCheng]

Problem is one side, the US wants this to end quickly , one side the Israelis are happy for it to go on, and one side the Iranians need it to go on long enough to inflict enough military, economic and political punishment that it is not hit again in 6 to 12 months time. Very complicated.

I agree, this situation is complicated indeed.

Only fools here can claim to have it all figured out by watching YT channels.

 

[Immortals]

In response to attack on appliances factory in Iran that killed workers:

 

[MastanKhan]

As Iran war expands, some conservative Christians interpret the conflict through biblical prophecies

For some Americans, biblical prophecies about the end-times serve as a guide to conflicts in the Middle East today.

theconversation.com

That's just strange.

Both sides of the conflict have an eeringly similar perspective.

Hi,

That is what I have been talking about at certain stages on this forum---.

Both sides want death and destruction for THEIR MESSIAH to come---.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Shags101]

Im telling you he basically said out loud we can’t actually do it because odds are we are going to lose a lot of ships I don’t think American forces can intercept dozens of missiles accurate or not with only seconds reaction time in multiple waves it would literally be a grave yard of American vessels damn all that fake bravado and he’s trying make other countries go down in flames for Israel as well

 

[Immortals]

 

[PakFactor]

Heard a good one today about Sec Hegeseth's comment

"The operation went on very smoothly, except that the patient died on the table."

And then followed by No shit, genius, how are we going to break that cycle is what we want to hear, we don't want to hear about the problem again..

Lol. Golden. ,

 

[Immortals]

Censorship by the fake Arab monarchs continues led by their Chief MBS from Baboon Arabia

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Many here are either pro-Arab, sectarian scums, or likely Hasbara demons advocating Iran to concentrate on the demonic entity; thereby giving the other targets breather, I suspect only few of them mean well but lack an understanding that the Iranians knew all along and were playing nice until this war - taking out the oil fields of the treacherous Gulf arabs (including Iraq), not only puts pressure on the demons to find an off-ramp before their economies implode and strategic oil reserves is depleted, but its takes the billions of petrol-dollars out of their financial systems which provide financial muscles to fund their murderous destruction across the Middle East.
Its all about power and money.

Well Arabs had the perfect opportunity to take their oil off line and make their air and soil a no go zone.

However, they can't see beyond money and simply have nothing to stop the US from using their fields and airspace with impunity. Iraq even formally passed the resolution to evict the US in 2020... which means it is against the law for US to still operate inside Iraqi territory.
How is that doing? Democracy, rule of law, decency, sanctity of human life, heritage, faith

Everything is a venue for deception!

 

[Flotilla]

Just watched this Trita Parsi video after watching one of Chas Freeman. Some take aways:
1) Per Chas, it is Netanyahu's personal influence over Trump which was the biggest factor in starting this war.
2) Per Trita, Trump, while being generally careful in his foreign policy, has put himself into this 'lose-lose' situation. Per Trita, Iran can even take the loss of the Kharq Island and manage that while there would be a blood bath of any American forces deployed there.

Never miss a word by the likes of Chas, Trita and Max Blumenthal. In the video below, Trita seems to say Iran has the upper hand in this war!

People don´t understand the problem of deploying troops in Kharg Island.
All short range ballistic missiles, including Fath 360. All of them that can´t reach Israel, can be launched easily from any place to kharg, which literally has no shelter.
So good luck with that.