Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Falcon29 said:
Iranian missile in southern Israel

Several rockets from Lebanon fired at Haifa

-- early reports
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Al Arabiya correspondent: Hezbollah launched rockets towards Haifa simultaneously with Iran #AlArabiya_Breaking

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Falcon29 said:
United States of Israel giving free weapons and $$$ for Israeli war machine

Neglecting struggling Americans that can't get jobs --:
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URGENT | Israeli Broadcasting Authority: Washington has begun an air bridge to supply the Israeli army with ammunition

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Israeli broadcast: Arrival of ammunition shipments from America to support the air force #العربية_عاجل

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Mav3rick said:
How long can Pakistan resist the pressure from US to allow the use of Pakistan bases as a launch pad against Iran and how long can Pakistan resist Saudi pressure to go to war against Iran?
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There, you said it!

It is not about objectivity or aversion to an illegal war of aggression... that was totally initiated by choice... subject to which were every other Middle Eastern state... context be damned!
First thing Pakistan was not and is not party to any Saudi-US bilateral ties or compulsions. Neither was it grandfathered in...
A US aggression where Saudis are mere spectators because US chose war ... WITH OR WITHOUT SAUDI APPROVAL AND WAS NOT ABLE TO GUARANTEE THEIR PROTECTION OR SECURITY.
In other words US threw Saudis under the bus, come what may!
Pakistan has no compulsion unless it so CHOOSE!
And that choice comes with many a pitfalls... Pakistan has a significant Shi'i minority and a sacred border.
This war has nothing to do with Saudis except their exposure to US diktat, materiel and bases... ISR capabilities... that for US work under a unified command.
Here is where the US impunity precludes Iranian... because eventhough US can use whatever it may at its discretion... Iran must ties both its hands behind its back to get slapped around. Because then Saudi or GCC sovereignty swings into action only to split the battlefield when it is not.
I know it seems complicated on the other side... it is not. It is Iran vs zion... where zion can sock puppet US and its proxies to do its bidding.

Pakistan will be wise to sit back. Only thing it can offer is the safety of the regime... which is not going anywhere regardless of Pakistan and Iranians even if they were able to, are not after that...
So stop being so melodramatic.
 
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Al Arabiya correspondent: Hezbollah launched rockets towards Haifa simultaneously with Iran #AlArabiya_Breaking

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Renewed rocket fire from Lebanon (keep in mind Israeli has been heavily bombing Beirut and southern Lebanon since hours ago) :

Al Arabiya correspondent: Launch of rockets from Lebanon towards Acre and Haifa Bay in northern Israel #AlArabiya_Breaking

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From earlier tonight :

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A rocket launched by Hezbollah hit an Israeli Nagmachon vehicle in the town of Khiyam

There are injuries among the soldiers

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Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
There, you said it!

It is not about objectivity or aversion to an illegal war of aggression... that was totally initiated by choice... subject to which were every other Middle Eastern state... context be damned!
First thing Pakistan was not and is not party to any Saudi-US bilateral ties or compulsions. Neither was it grandfathered in...
A US aggression where Saudis are mere spectators because US chose war ... WITH OR WITHOUT SAUDI APPROVAL AND WAS NOT ABLE TO GUARANTEE THEIR PROTECTION OR SECURITY.
In other words US threw Saudis under the bus, come what may!
Pakistan has no compulsion unless it so CHOOSE!
And that choice comes with many a pitfalls... Pakistan has a significant Shi'i minority and a sacred border.
This war has nothing to do with Saudis except their exposure to US diktat, materiel and bases... ISR capabilities... that for US work under a unified command.
Here is where the US impunity precludes Iranian... because eventhough US can use whatever it may at its discretion... Iran must ties both its hands behind its back to get slapped around. Because then Saudi or GCC sovereignty swings into action only to split the battlefield when it is not.
I know it seems complicated on the other side... it is not. It is Iran vs zion... where zion can sock puppet US and its proxies to do its bidding.

Pakistan will be wise to sit back. Only thing it can offer is the safety of the regime... which is not going anywhere regardless of Pakistan and Iranians even if they were able to, are not after that...
So stop being so melodramatic.
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Agreed with everything accept that this war has nothing to do saudis. Remember WP article on the first day. MBS used to call khameni the hitler of middle east and hated the guy to guts.

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Meengla said:
A little off topic but I didn't see how the hundreds of millions of Latinos came to support one of their own plucked from beneath their noses when Maduro was abducted in an action where many dozen Latinos died or the Africans protesting when Nigeria was recently bombed.
On the contrary, those two large continents with maybe 50+ countries split between them barely even registered much cyber protests.
In contrast, the reaction in the Islamic world, at least on street level, is widespread and continuing over the decades.
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In my assessment, these regimes in the Islamic world often use religion as a unifying force when it benefits them to maintain their power. Due to our emotional attachment, people tend to rally without fully considering what they aim to achieve when protesting. Additionally, there is personality worship, which is quite common in our part of the world.

In South America and Africa, religion is not used as a unifying force, and these regimes usually lack genuine support if a dictator is removed because of their heavy-handed rule.

In our region, we take God's name in vain and misuse it for our own nefarious purposes with false representation by hypocritical people.

This is often what @VCheng tries to show, many on PDF, but members sometimes fail to understand him, that most are just sheep being led by a wolf in nice clothing.
 
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Israeli AD is depleted.

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Mav3rick said:
When Iran continues to attack Saudi interests in the region, on the pretext that those are US interests, Iran itself opens a path for retaliation. Iran is very lucky that the GCC has still not decided to go to war but if it does, the pounding that Iran will receive from all sides would mean Iran becoming another Afghanistan or Iraq.

You claim that Saudi bases are being used by the US to attack Iran, if that is the case then Iran would be justified in retaliating against those bases. However, Iran cannot justify attacking Saudi Financial interests, even those which are with US companies because at the end of the day it is Saudi money and economy at stake first. But again, no other source is reporting use of Middle East bases to launch attacks on Iran.

Even after all this, Iran enjoys massive support from countries like Pakistan, which is trying its best to NOT choose a side. And yet, at the cost of repetition, Iran must also respect the fact that Pakistan has a defence pact with Saudi Arabia which Pakistan will honour even if it means eventually going to war against Iran. This is, however, in Iranian hands. And Iran should be concerned, really concerned, because war with Pakistan could also potentially mean US boots on ground through Pakistan.

Finally, I would advise my Iranian friends, brothers and neighbours to weight things very carefully, there is only so much that others can take from you quietly. Think of the consequences of pushing the entire region into war, against yourself. How long can Pakistan resist the pressure from US to allow the use of Pakistan bases as a launch pad against Iran and how long can Pakistan resist Saudi pressure to go to war against Iran?
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the issue can be resolved peacefully by the saudis if they say no US assets can be in the region, yet they arent willing to do that...so here we are
 
kobra said:
Agreed with everything accept that this war has nothing to do saudis. Remember WP article on the first day. MBS used to call khameni the hitler of middle east and hated the guy to guts.

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Saudis have walked the fine line of maintaining the optics of being on the right side of zion and amplifying Iranian threat... music to the ears of heshe neocons.
This emanates from insecurities at home and oversized midgets like Emirates and Qatar.
That clan leader from Emirates was THE imminent leader of the mideast... deciding its foreign policy and direction until he started getting push back on every front... with hands in every civil war in the region... Saudis only took them on after he took a bold move in Yemen... probably setting stage for their next move... with Somaliland, Ethiopia and India in the works. Saudis are nit privy to what the horn of devil is upto... had they been they would not have been caught off guard in both Somaliland and Yemen.

I know Saudis had even lobbied once before during Obama, to attack Iran. Something Mileikowsky was itching for... when orange clown blamed him to ignite that for ratings. It has been on tbe cards for decades.
 
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The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps has promised to target Israel's PM Netanyahu as the war with Israel and the US continues.⁠

“If this child-killing criminal is alive, we will continue to pursue and kill him with full force,” the IRGC said, according to Iranian media.⁠
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