Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Haz said:
That assumes that you know how much interceptors Israel has in stock, which no one truly knows. Also it assumes that Iran will have a significant stock of MRBM left and are able to launch them, which we also don't really know for sure.

I don't think this is a long term solution or deterrence regardless tbh, they will need to go the nuclear rout at this point, I don't see any real alternative if they want lasting peace.
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People can get a good estimate as production numbers are known and usage has been quite accurately determined from 2024 and 2025 usage..

I am not saying this is a long term solution but "mowing the lawn" strategy with Iran is not possible as Zio-US will need many years(3-4) before replenishing their interceptor stocks.


As for Iran MRBM stock, no one really knows but they are definitely able to launch as we can see now.
 
Haz said:
That assumes that you know how much interceptors Israel has in stock, which no one truly knows. Also it assumes that Iran will have a significant stock of MRBM left and are able to launch them, which we also don't really know for sure.

I don't think this is a long term solution or deterrence regardless tbh, they will need to go the nuclear rout at this point, especially if they don't want to suffer another crippling air campaign that destroys valuable infrastructure. I don't see any real alternative if they want lasting peace.
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Cheapest long-range drones are enough for Iran to ensure uncertainty and damage to the entity and incompetence of USA to protect the actual order
 
mythbuster said:
Naa , Americans are going for limited ground invasion of area around strait of Hormuz....it will massively degrade Iranian capacity to block shipping through the straits.
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That's still not a clear option they are committed to as far as I can tell, and I'm not sure if that won't lead to further escalation either once US servicemen start dropping. I still think everyone but Israel wants to limit this conflict from developing into a real open ended ground war.

Israel has already put a time limit on this campaign for 3 more weeks, and Trump has been wavering too.
 
mythbuster said:
Naa , Americans are going for limited ground invasion of area around strait of Hormuz....it will massively degrade Iranian capacity to block shipping through the straits.
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And that would be very limited short-term "victory" for them ...they will have to go home...
 
Immortals said:
Things must not be going good if they are targeting pieces of artillery….

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would interesting to note, where the bombing on artillery took place

my guess is, it is near the border areas
 
UKBengali said:
People can get a good estimate as production numbers are known and usage has been quite accurately determined from 2024 and 2025 usage..

I am not saying this is a long term solution but "mowing the lawn" strategy with Iran is not possible as Zio-US will need many years(3-4) before replenishing their interceptor stocks.


As for Iran MRBM stock, no one really knows but they are definitely able to launch as we can see now.
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You may have a good point with that statement actually, didn't factor that part in.
 
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Even though we all wanted it to happen but still as a human being with conscience it's painful to watch a mother in pain. Now they understand how does it feels like a loose a loved one. Imagine thousands of mother's in Gaza who lost their children. But their pain was a pleasure for these animals.
 
SecularNationalist said:
If Iran will survive this war then make no mistake Iran will appear as 10 times dangerous on the world stage later. It's geopolitics profile will go up and Iran will become the first nation to defeat US and isreal in recent decades. Everywhere else US and Iran succeeded in their war objectives. Iraq,Libya ,Syria etc. Even Afghanistan to some extent bcz the comparative losses they suffered were almost nothing.
Not just that Iran will learn valuable lessons from this war. And next time it will be almost impossible to defeat Iran. Isreal will get very weaker with no US support and greater isreal will stay a wet dream only.
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Iran will also hold bragging rights as the FIRST Brown/Olive-skinned nation and the FIRST Muslim country to have militarily defeated america/israel and the west.
 
Immortals said:
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Russia, Azeribajian, and now Vietnam have sent aid to Iran

CHINA HAS SENT NOTHING
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China loves PGCC and Wahhabi Arabia

That's the reason
 
Aziqbal said:
there is one danger

the amphibious ready group is on its way

if they take the Iranian island and manage to open the straight it could cause issues for Iran

Iran must prepare for a counter attack or sink that warship while at Sea
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If Trump is scared of escorting ships, how will te marines enter the strait and go all the way to Kharg island?
 
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