Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

SecularNationalist said:
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Even though we all wanted it to happen but still as a human being with conscience it's painful to watch a mother in pain. Now they understand how does it feels like a loose a loved one. Imagine thousands of mother's in Gaza who lost their children. But their pain was a pleasure for these animals.
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Dont show any remorse for this filthy evil subhuman creatures. It's a sin.
Unknowntruth said:
The destruction in Iran has been many times worse than Israel. I don’t see very much direct hits and looks like a lot of intercepted missile debris causing some damage in Israel.

The problem is that some people here are pushing baseless facts that Israel is in ruins and that they are covering it up. While that may be true in a sense, they are severely overestimating the damage Iran has caused.

That could change if Israel interceptor stockpiles continue to decrease. Looks like they have faired fairly well so far though.

Now, you will have people attacking me for seeing it as I see it. It is very important to be realistic and see everything clearly so you don’t underestimate your enemies capabilities.

Don’t get me wrong, Iran has faired well considering the circumstances. The problem is that you can see the limitations of just ballistic missiles being launched. They will do more damage as interceptors run low but we can’t ignore the massive lopsidedness in the deaths/casualties and destruction.
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The war is costing the zionist west between 5-10 billions usd a day. Iran is not following the western concept of winning wars (based on killing number of people). Iran is after strategic goals.
 
mythbuster said:
I don't claim to be a strategic expert but here's my limited take on this ! Kharg island is a distraction , it serves no immediate strategic purpose ....area around Hormuz is relatively flat and there are no natural defences , it's also thinly populated ... once captured it's easy to defend , Iran doesn't have the capacity to launch a counter offensive...any Iranian ground movement will be immediately detected and will be taken care of through air bombardment.... north west Iran is heavily fortified , psyops aside , there doesn't seem to be an actual plan to invade that region....you fear escalation of the adversary have the capacity to raise the bar ...Iran doesn't seem to have one .
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Edit: I misread your post. Ya I think you are right, that Island is a distraction, they will need to hold the area on the mainland to open up the strait, but I think that could also be dangerous for them. Iran has plenty of SRBM and drones that can hit those occupying troops from a far, so it will definitely cause casualties regardless, even if the IRGC/army itself can't approach and engage US soldiers directly..
 
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Mr X said:
Although long term war is not in favour of Pakistan, I hope Iran can extend this war to several months, if not years. If they have 2000 missiles in stock, it is better to fire 50 missiles per week than to run out in a month.
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They are firing 30-40 missiles a day. But also 75-100 drones.

If they can even manufacture 20 missiles a month across all of Iran in secret locations (down from the 100+ a month Rubio claimed to the press) then they can extend this conflict for over a year.
 
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Haz said:
Afghanistan already hold that title.
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I dunno..this is like France claiming they beat Germany because their resistance was still functional. Meanwhile Hitler was touring Paris, German troops roamed the country, and they installed the Vichy Government...which ran the country for years.

How do you define "win". Successfully searching under every rock for the resistance?
 
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Haz said:
I see, so you think a limited ground presence on that one island along with air patrols will be enough to suppress Iran's ability to block the strait?

I'm no military expert either, but I'm not sure if that alone will do, I thought they'd have to take the South/Western coastal areas on the mainland as well at least before they can ensure safe passage through the strait. Maybe you're right, we'll see.
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What island are you talking about ? I am talking about capturing part of the mainland...
 
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