Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

mangekyo said:
«but we also do it for some very good allies that we have in the Middle East.»

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Imagine being the parent of a dead US soldier hearing that.
 
Meengla said:
This war is not going to end anytime soon even if Trump has a heart attack today and passes away because Iran has had enough and can't trust the next President.

But, like every war, this too shall end and the not only the Middle East but much larger part of the world will change. Saw Chas Freeman yesterday making a connection between South Arica and Brazil as a result of Trump's wars. South Africa and Brazil!!
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If there is one thing that can be said about this war, based on history, this will be a long war and results unpredictable. Iraq-Iran war lasted nearly a decade and achieved nothing of significance. So did the 2003 Iraq war. Afghanistan war by USSR lasted a decade, whereas the one by U.S. took two decades to end in a deadlock with nothing to show. Pakistan's war on Afghanistan has just started, so hard to predict when or how it will end. Even the war in tiny Gaza has lasted over two years and ended in a deadlock with no solution. Only the limited Gulf war of 1991 had some degree of completeness in liberating Kuwait, though even that led to an incomplete solution with Saddam still in power.
 
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Russia OWES Iran some BIG favors
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Its in Russias best intrest to turn this into a forever war and make it an American version of their Ukrainian invasion
 
EugeneP said:
If there is one thing that can be said about this war, based on history, this will be a long war and results unpredictable. Iraq-Iran war lasted nearly a decade and achieved nothing of significance. So did the 2003 Iraq war. Afghanistan war by USSR lasted a decade, whereas the one by U.S. took two decades to end in a deadlock with nothing to show. Pakistan's war on Afghanistan has just started, so hard to predict when or how it will end. Even the war in tiny Gaza has lasted over two years and ended in a deadlock with no solution. Only the limited Gulf war of 1991 had some degree of completeness in liberating Kuwait, though even that led to an incomplete solution with Saddam still in power.
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End of american presence in middle east, except in jewish crusader colony of so called israel. That will be outcome of this war.
 
EugeneP said:
If there is one thing that can be said about this war, based on history, this will be a long war and results unpredictable. Iraq-Iran war lasted nearly a decade and achieved nothing of significance. So did the 2003 Iraq war. Afghanistan war by USSR lasted a decade, whereas the one by U.S. took two decades to end in a deadlock with nothing to show. Pakistan's war on Afghanistan has just started, so hard to predict when or how it will end. Even the war in tiny Gaza has lasted over two years and ended in a deadlock with no solution. Only the limited Gulf war of 1991 had some degree of completeness in liberating Kuwait, though even that led to an incomplete solution with Saddam still in power.
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Wars are means to push politicians on the negotiating table. Iran was already compromising but the west wanted it all, and they were not happy with Iran not bending the knee. So we started the war to push them to complete capitulation.
Now this war did the complete opposite. it pushed the politicians out of negotiating table and it gave the opposing party more power and now they are in driving seat putting the terms of negotiations which are a complete opposite to what the west wanted.

This war has been completely lost from the global perspective.
 
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El Sidd said:
Kingdom of Persia under the Khamanei Dynasty has united all Iranians in their hatred for non-Aryans.
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So are they hating Pakistanis as well inside Iran. Thats a new.
For the Gulfies, its much deserved response as they have been in the bed with the Zionists and US. Why should they be spared at all.
 
Jugantor said:
... Only the Saudi Clown Prince is shilling for Trump. He knows only US can help him survive. Without US he is dead.

Hence Iran needs to keep pounding the Saudis.
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Apart from Israel and the US, nobody else wants or wanted this war. These two nations unjustly attacked Iran.

The US didn't consult it's NATO allies, but instead threatened to invade Greenland weeks before.

The US also did not bother to consult any of its Gulf partners and just threw them in front of the firing line.

Considering none of the GCC nations have launched a single airstrike on Iran despite American aerial supermacy over Iran, that suggests to me they're not interested in this war.

One of reasons for the desperation by Israel and the US to launch this war the way it was launched is because they've not been able to undo the normalisation of ties between Iran and Saudi Arabia that were mediated by China and Iraq in 2023, as well as the Saudi-Houthi ceasefire since 2022.

It's crazy how far Israel and the US are willing to go to sow discord between the Muslim nations but in my humble opinion, its just not working in 2026.
 
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