Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[hasssanali8998]

An explosion was heard following gunfire in Kabul, according to initial reports. More details awaited

 

[Goenitz]

That's a lot of incoming fire from the boys. Best defence against drones, aside other hunter drones.

is there any exploding ammo (harder like swiss oerlikon) or multi-barreled bird shots, or belt-fed bird shot? We should make these weapons

 

[Oscar]

Hey why do you get to post a single word? Blatant abuse of mod powers I say

More so because I use a phone

 

[Distant_Observer]

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[MirageV3ff]

cant even say anything to him because he gave us nukes and f16s

Sure he had his positives like the nuclear program and the nukes but the long term damage he did thanks to his policies have done us more damage than good.

 

[T80UD]

What is this "high number of civilian collateral"? Can you quantify?

Basically how easily it can dismissed, if a strike has a handful of civilian deaths you can sort pretend they didn't occur, now if a strikes involves a 100 civilian deaths you can't just look the other way because it's going to be on international headlines for several days

 

[hasssanali8998]

Sure he had his positives like the nuclear program and the nukes but the long term damage he did thanks to his policies have done us more damage than good.

nukes outweigh everything
also zia wasnt the only one , all of our leaders locked the **** in when it came to nukes ( like nawazu , bhutto and ofc zia)

 

[Blain2]

You can whitewash them. I just consider whoever transgresses and aggresses is the enemy. BTW we have already sent an ulema group for talk.

Will Pakistan avenge the 23 civilians killed post-Khamnaei martyrdom? If not from the Marines, then from those policemen who failed to stop the protestors from gathering there.
Also, we know why TTA is bloating, India (BLA too). India has already carried out multiple assassinations across Pakistan. Not to mention, they are digging a new canal from the Chenab.
Or we are just good at punishing Afghans.

We can agree they are savage, but we have to be better. Kill their combatants, but we should show empathy if civilians get killed.

Ok they are savage.
No politcial part considered them our bachy. ANP, Murad Saeed were kept yelling not to favour them or bring them back.
TTA should be duly punished, as despite our brotherly treatment, they attacked us in bazars, mosques, etc. No doubt about that. They should be the last to attack us.

Whitewash? Why such confusion? Who is orchestrating TTP if it's not the Taliban in Afghanistan? This is black and white. We are having bi-lateral talks with Taliban in Afg about TTP and not with India or some other power. They say they have TTP living in their country so why suggest "whitewash"?

"Or we are just good at punishing Afghans."
Pakistan is responding to those who have killed Pakistanis in the hundreds and thousands. Currently that is not India. It is unfortunately our supposedly Muslim brothers in Afghanistan. When India attacked, we did what we needed to. When Afghanistan sends TTP terrorists to attack Pakistan, we hit them back. Islam allows for self-defense. Any doubts?

"We can agree they are savage, but we have to be better. Kill their combatants, but we should show empathy if civilians get killed."

So who killed their civilians and how many? Can you show some proof? Do their 10, 20, or 30 civilian deaths come even close to the 3,000 Pakistanis that they have murdered? I have not called them "savages" and I await credible evidence that Pakistan has accidentally murdered over a hundred Afghans in an airstrike.

"No politcial part considered them our bachy. ANP, Murad Saeed were kept yelling not to favour them or bring them back."

That was a compulsion then to safeguard Pakistan against the Northern Alliance. But nothing except interests are permanent and that compulsion no longer exists (same as India and Taliban were arch enemies and not any longer given the latter's allegiance to Imam Modi). Now these same Taliban are attacking Pakistan so we have to change our tact. It is quite simple and I am glad you agree that these takfiris have to be dealt with.

 

[Blain2]

Basically how easily it can dismissed, if a strike has a handful of civilian deaths you can sort pretend they didn't occur, now if a strikes involves a 100 civilian deaths you can't just look the other way because it's going to be on international headlines for several days

Show us the evidence that hundreds of civilians have died. I am asking for proof.

Meray bhai nobody has dismissed anything. Life of any innocent Afghan lost is deplorable.

 

[Blain2]

let me show you shomething , indian have shifted from their insas mounts to negev lol
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Indians essentially copied this Ukrainian tactic from their war:

 

[T80UD]

Show us the evidence that hundreds of civilians have died. I am asking for proof.

Nobody has dismissed anything. Life of any innocent Afghan lost is deplorable.

BBC has confirmed atleast 100 died, the UN has reported 75 bodies before that, sure it might not be 400 but it's still 100

Source: BBC https://share.google/KRqq59aH4l00G2li0

 

[Ak01]

BBC has confirmed atleast 100 died, the UN has reported 75 bodies before that, sure it might not be 400 but it's still 100

Source: BBC https://share.google/KRqq59aH4l00G2li0

oh well womp womp

 

[Blain2]

BBC has confirmed atleast 100 died, the UN has reported 75 bodies before that, sure it might not be 400 but it's still 100

Source: BBC https://share.google/KRqq59aH4l00G2li0

So you just take whatever BBC reports as scripture?

I would question even that high a number given the fact that BBC itself has nobody on the ground and quoted an Afghan source: "forensic laboratory sources told the BBC." Quoted from your link above. Guess whose "forensic laboratory" this is? Of course the Taliban's.

Second, the UN report says the following:
"On 16 March at around 9pm in Kabul, an airstrike carried out by Pakistan military forces impacted the Omid Addiction Treatment Hospital, a healthcare facility for the treatment of drug-addicted individuals, dozens of whom were reportedly killed and injured." Quoted from the official UNAMA statement: https://unama.unmissions.org/en/press-releases/unama-statement-airstrike-medical-facility-kabul

Neither the BBC nor the UN have themselves confirmed the casualties with their own resources on the ground and given the state of Afghan Taliban control over their media and sources, these claims remain dubious. This is not to say no civilian died, but the sources are dubious given that none of these sources have their own people reporting and they are "attributing".

I highlight this because this is the ONLY option available to the Takfiris. To use the media/SM (with support from RSS bigots) to make their case as the victims which they are patently not.

 

[Distant_Observer]

oh well womp womp

Have taliban ever apologised for killing Pakistanis through their proxies?

They spit on your faces instead.

Why must Pakistan abide by a moral code? An eye for an eye.

They were military targets and if there is collateral then so be it.

This is war. taliban are free to surrender along with TTP and BLA live on television.

 

[hussain0216]

BBC has confirmed atleast 100 died, the UN has reported 75 bodies before that, sure it might not be 400 but it's still 100

Source: BBC https://share.google/KRqq59aH4l00G2li0

Who cares, afghans are our enemies

If they don't want afghans dying, then stop terrorism against Pakistan

If killing 100 afghans saves the life of 1 Pakistani citizen, then do it

All the Afghans have to do is end their terrorism


Their is no more negotiations to be had, afghans either do it or we keep hitting them