Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

925boy said:
And do you know the unique and huge danger this war poses to US? A change in the global perception that it is the strongest power on earth.

Even if US and Iran decide today to do a ceasefire, the world will SEE it that iran won the war,and this is the first conflict involving the US that the world is watching that it is 100% perceiving US as being the loser, irrespective of whether US actually loses the conflict or not.

Conversely, iran's global status is elevated and will be elevated more , because in the world's perception ,it did ehat no other country could do- fight and damage US confidently.

Our world will never be the same again and the US empire's losses and decline will only accelerate from here on out.
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The world has accepted Iran as the gatekeeper and oil supplier of 20% of the world's oil.
 
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BHAN85 said:
2 elderly civilians who can't go to shelter fast enough due to mobility problems.

sure Iran will win war with such high profile killing.

Israel killing high ranking officials, most powerful people in the country.
And Iran killing 2 elderly common people, most inoffensive people in the country.

a reason to be proud, oh yes

such a ridiculous post.
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Iran doesn't think it can win this war. It did what it could to try deterring it. By arming Hezbollah+ Hamas and becoming a nuclear threshold state, trying to get nuclear weapons eventually.

It has now come to war and it has to work with what it has. Making Tel Aviv a Hell Hole would put enormous pressure on Israeli leadership to end war. Their population will struggle in a real war.
 
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Bengal71 said:
Sad that you guys don't have Hilux or the 70 series landcruiser.
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I've seen them get imported by private sellers. Obscenely priced in the US.
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Iran got that dog in them for real.
 
Musings said:
Starving a putting sanctions on a nation for literally decades and now killing children? What a legacy the Americans are building
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sanctions acted as a force multiplier but these issues were inevitable largely due to poor governance and corruption. Iran was sanctioned by the UN supported by both China and Russia between 2006 and 2010. You really think China would deny parts needed to fix Tehran's water supply infrastructure when the Chinese have been bartering Iranian oil for infrastructure building and covert supply of dual use technology? Iran preferred to spend its oil revenues on enriching the ruling elites and the military while generously sponsoring Syria, Houthis and Hamas.

The sorry state of Tehran is neglect and mismanagement let's call a spade a spade please.
 
kobra said:
If HZ continue what its doing, Beirut is unfortunately going to look like Gaza and Due to the pressure of Lebanese government and non shia population Hzb has to stop.

Israi knows that gureilla warfare against Hzb is a tiresome practice, they have got a very inhuman but lethal strategy to counter Hzb.
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This kind of attacks is for Hezbollah to stand down and exit conflict. And signals they are not interested in ground invasion of Lebanon.

Which is what I've been saying all along. They now occupy both Gaza and the West Bank and will have to cut down in either/or , in order to mount large scale ground invasion in Lebanon.

It is probably a shock for Lebanese public as they aren't used to these Israeli tactics and is economically costly. For Gaza they've been employing this tactic since a long time. Particularly more so in 2019, 2021, and ofc 2023-2025.
 
So Americans think by pounding Iran they will break them?
Just been watching SKY - a lady in Tehran sitting next to a 6 year old daughter in a coma - she wont survive. The mother turned to the camera and her first thought was for Iran to continue and fight this barbarism. These people cannot be broken and in fact are stronger than ever.
Trumps massive miscalculation
 
dbc said:
sanctions acted as a force multiplier but these issues were inevitable largely due to poor governance and corruption. Iran was sanctioned by the UN supported by both China and Russia between 2006 and 2010. You really think China would deny parts needed to fix Tehran's water supply infrastructure when the Chinese have been bartering Iranian oil for infrastructure building and covert supply of dual use technology? Iran preferred to spend its oil revenues on enriching the ruling elites and the military while generously sponsoring Syria, Houthis and Hamas.

The sorry state of Tehran is neglect and mismanagement let's call a spade a spade please.
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They managed Iran even under 40 years of sanctions. I think that's remarkable. Look at us. We were doing everything possible to make them happy, and look at our condition. Iran is much more advanced than us. Even without atomic bombs, they told the world there is nothing compared to dignity.

And you talk about management—their main leaders and generals being martyred one by one, and they are still fighting. Don't you think that is the pro level of management and system they have developed under 40 years of sanctions?
 
A land war or major special forces commando raid is inevitable because U.S. needs to secure Iran’s nuclear material.

This war will not end until Israel and America have confirmed that iran’s nuclear material is secured and destroyed or removed from the country.

Right now each day that passes they get nervous if iran was able to divert some material or if there is room or hallway somewhere in Iran where only 2-3 IRGC generals know and 3-4 scientists under 24/7 watch are enriching at a mad pace to develop 2 nuclear bombs for back to back testing detonation.

Honestly that is the only way Iran survives this in long term is that since the June war it has been enriching at a break neck speed in a hidden secret site that not even Khamenai knew about. If that sprint to a bomb didn’t happen then US special forces will be on Iranian soil within next 30 days.

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Immortals said:
A land war or major special forces commando raid is inevitable because U.S. needs to secure Iran’s nuclear material.

This war will not end until Israel and America have confirmed that iran’s nuclear material is secured and destroyed or removed from the country.

Right now each day that passes they get nervous if iran was able to divert so material or if there is room or hallway somewhere in Iran where only 2-3 IRGC generals know and 3-4 scientists under 24/7 watch are enriching at a mad pace to develop 2 nuclear bombs for back to back testing detonation.

Honestly that is the only way Iran survives this in long term is that since the June war it has been enriching at a break neck speed in a hidden secret site that not even Khamenai knew about. If that sprint to a bomb didn’t happen then US special forces will be on Iranian soil within next 30 days.

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What currently leads you to believe SOF teams aren't already there?
 
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