Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Which Persian Gulf War are you referring to? The first? Or the second?

The only Democrat President since LBJ who has not been Israel-friendly has been Obama. So you can stop with the supposed control of the US by Israel when there is a Republican President.

I'll remind everyone once again, had the smartest woman in politics who yet lost twice to political neophytes been elected President, the US and Iran would have been at war far sooner than now.
You kidding me? Obama was anti israel?

I think out of an Obama administration of some 300 appointed executives about 150 were Jews with dual nationality Israel/America

even his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel is a jew and zionist
 
Israel has been thrashed more then we know. Still you are right unless they make it bend, israel will keep creating problems.

Current Israeli leadership needs to be taken out. Ironically, its in the interest of America as well. If and whatever, Iran and America agree on, its guarantee, that Israeli leadership and their touts within America will put spanner in the works.
 
The reality on the ground is still no cease fire...

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So Israelis said Iran had closer 200 before this war started now they’re saying closer to 500 and funny thing is I’m starting to think that 2000 missiles high end number the Israelis said Iran had is probably much higher double and forget the launchers they don’t mention the few other ways Iran has to launch those missiles
 
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No one should trust Donald Trump unless Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin are in the room with him. He only respects those two men.

Iran needs to remain on full alert. He's probably going to create some optimistic headlines again and then just attack.

I'll repeat what I have been saying for the last couple of weeks that the US military from day one has been saying that the "intense" stage of the military campaign will last 4-6 weeks (28-42 days), and we are now on day 24.
 
Highly likely its already happening if not happened already. Its no longer Khamenei's IRI we are seeing. He "avenged" Soleimani, the greatest Iranian Warrior General in a century, by giving concussions to 150 US soldiers and everything was back to normal for him. The way current force is fighting, they might have closed hormuz back then or might have torn down NPT. Khamenei was a road block.
Iran still needs a uranium metal conversion facility. It seems that the easiest option for now is to purchase nuclear parts from North Korea and assemble them here.

Stupid post because I never have said a single time that Arab children need to be bombed wtf. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said in retaliation, escalation steps needs to be climbed up because they are a party in this war already by fully facilitating or enabling our direct enemy bombing our kids so your extreme love for them is not something I understand. In 12 day war, IRGCASF hit Jew hospitals (Soroka Strike, 1000+ injured in one go) in retaliation only. Qesham desalinization attack came from where was responded in kind promptly. If something like this repeats, IRGC knows what to do. Our words here mean zero.
You write nonsense without reading what is being discussed. The other member here was advocating for the destruction of hospitals and schools in Arab states in the Persian Gulf. It was not about escalation, it was about doing it as a deterrence move, which is ridiculous.

Trump ain't controlling this war, Zio-neocon mafia around him are doing that. He is brought in power to be powerless because they have blackmailing leverages over him. He did not start these wars instead he failed to stop them like Obama, Biden resisted before.

Also Pezeshkian has no worth in the system. He is just attending the office. Iranian presidents during Khamenei era had little power so what do you expect when the SL himself is an IRGC proxy?
Dude took out Soleimani in his first term. Name one stupid action that Biden committed like that.

Pezeshkian signals weakness every time he opens his mouth. His apology to the Arab sheikhdoms in the Persian Gulf led to nothing but the UNSC resolution passed against us, proposed by Bahrain.

We shouldn't encourage Iranian citizens to travel and do business with hostile states. Banks accounts, assets, amd businesses in these states can be seized and money spent in this states is indirectly used to kill Iranians.

Hospitals and universities in "Israel" should be targeted at minimum. Hitting places like banks and data centers in gulf countries should continue. Anyways, we are just giving opinions, we have no say in targets at the end of the day.
You cannot build a wall around Iran and stop trading with your neighbors. Who else do you want to trade with? Turkey? It's a NATO member. Republic of Azerbaijan? It hosts Israel instead of the US (even worse). Afghanistan? Turkmenistan? Pakistan? Seriously, who is left? None of these countries have strategic alliance with us. You simply cannot say that we should stop doing business with all of our neighbors.

And it is the Persian Gulf. Not just "gulf". And sure, you're right. We're just sharing our opinions. We aren't the ones who make the decisions.
 
I hope the ceasefire is reached with Iranian conditions and withdrawal of IDF from Lebanon (must), if not including Gaza and recent Syrian territory occupations.
That would be ideal but how can you trust two bastards that attacked twice by the back when you were close to a deal.
 
So it seems with Larijani's assassination, the individual leading the country politically at least now is the Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf.
 
We know that Iran attacks Middle Eastern countries because these countries have assets from the United States and Israel. News during wartime cannot be trusted because the media of these countries involved in the war has purposeful propaganda.
If Iran wins this war, it will signal to the world that hosting US military bases is not a security guarantee, but rather a liability.

However, most of these Arab sheikhdoms are ruling over their respective countries because either the UK or the US installed them there. They're not going to change course easily. They need stronger repercussions to change course, such as a real threat of overthrowing their establishments.
 
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No friggin way! :ROFLMAO:

But on a serious note, would be a good scalp for Pakistan on the diplomatic front, but care should we taken that we do not turn out like Oman.
 
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One side is saying their are talks, the other side is saying their isn't. This is due to the fact that:
1. U.S. is lying;
2. Iran is lying; or
3. Iran's leadership is so fragmented, that parts of the leadership (most likely military) doesn't know what the political leadership is doing.
 

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