Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

I have a different view , Hezbollah will get crushed and the hapless Lebanonese army will be propped up to take full control of the country.
Yup, that's the way.

Lebanon can't have a terrorist organisation making military decisions of the country against the national army on behest of Iranian Generals.

That's not even a banana republic, or Somalia, it's something worse.
 
Hi,

There is a reason that I am a proponent of a pledge of allegiance in pakistani schools and colleges and work place.

" I pledge allegiance to the flag of Pakistan---for the Islamic republic that it stands for. One nation under Allah---indivisible with justice and liberty for all---".
 
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I don't get the Mahdi part. We know about the Aṣḥāb al-Kahf, how come the Mahdi isn't doing the same. Or do you think he never existed.
Hi,

Well---the belief is that we all will be obliterated and our nations destroyed. Whomsoever survived will be living in terrible conditions and then a saviour will arrive and destroy the aggressor---.

So---this self annihilating belief is a dominant part of the belief---.

This is a strange belief where you create scenarios to bring death and destruction to your very own to claim the coming of the Messiah---.
 
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Hate all you want but in the recent years, the team behind Asim Munir has been pulling master strokes in diplomacy, military, and to an extant economic fields.

Far from where you'd want, but an honest person would give them credit.

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There is no disagreement there but I don't even know where the religious angle came about other than a particular sect in Pakistan and supporters of a political party who at this stage have no other action other than "criticism for the sake of criticism"?
I mean come on, can we move past the whole supporters of a political do X/Y/Z?

At this point IMO the issue is the "shah kay shah say zyada wafadar" lot, just view their talk shows/tweets/articles. All government affiliated 'journalists' have taken up the anti-Shia mantel at this point. They are the ones pushing out the hafiz-e-harmain narrative, naturally you are going to get pushback. But I guess as a whole the level of discourse is just trash all over.

The messaging cannot be smarter because at the end if you mention to the wider audience the geopolitical constraints and economic situation which is a product of successively flawed governments and experiments by the establishment then you might as well reveal that your nuclear program, F-16s , military hardware, rocketry etc. all have some aspect of financing and that part of these security guarantees was you promising to delivery which you did not deliver during the Yemen conflict with frankly all of these political players being so called "contentious objectors" even when many of them were part of the tacit promises made to their property investment locations overseas.

I also find it laughable that many of these revolutionary political view holders who seem to be from educated backgrounds forget that regardless of their so called principles they seem to forget their supposed understand of the world to somehow propose that all past agreements made by their fathers and grandfathers should both be nullified but they should be given preferential treatment by these benefactors.
Well I guess the debts have to be due some day! Which is why adhoc decisions made on personal whims can sometimes backfire on a state level. Foreign policy and geopolitics cannot be left to the whime of individuals.

But the latest news from today provides some interesting background into Pakistan's future role. Arabs are definitely "scared" (not the most precise word) of Iran now, and would definitely be thinking the US isn't quite the golden goose they expected it to be.

Perhaps a new regional dynamic is coming to the fore? Time will tell. But at the end of the day, as long as we are beholden to the sheikhs for their oil money and bank deposits, we will always have very little maneuvering room.
 
Field Marshal is a mix of General Zia and General Musharraf . its a rare trait..He is general fox
And what makes him special is he is not one man running the show, it's clear he has a very competent team & set of advisors in the background guiding his policies and strategies. He signs off on what is max benefit, and most sustainable.

I'm liking it so far, he has delivered diplomatically, militarily, managed a broken economy and stood his ground for Pakistan's own interests where it mattered in the face of pressure.

All while certain political elements spent all their energies trying to sabotage his efforts.
 

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