Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

@Persian Gulf

please listen from 17:48 to 20:10

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[ShapurII]

Iran suffered alot.

Nuclear reactors destroyed
Chief / govt officials / religious officials dead
Navy destroyers gone
1000s dead.
Infrastructure gone

And how many Israeli and usa got killed? 1 to 500 ratio

Iran's infrastructure is intact.
To this day, 1443 people have died.

Government officials have not been targeted. The President is still there. All of our ministers are still there, except for the Minister of Intelligence.
The Leadership was replaced, which is not that bad because his "strategic patience" was killing Iran. Ali Larijani was basically a senior advisor, unlike what they claim.

Iranian infrastructure is intact. Iranians are living absolutely normal lives with 24/7 electricity, gas, water, etc. One liter of gasoline is barely 2 cents in Iran and the daily quota is 30 liters which is a lot. I would say the situation in Iran is definitely better than most Asian and European countries that have been affected by the war.

In just one incident, when Iran hit Dimona and Arad, over 200 Israelis were injured as reported by Israel. You'd be a fool to think that none of them has died. The entire neighborhood had been blown up to pieces. Israel is definitely hiding fatalities.

As for the US, all of their losses have been "technical problems". There will be more "technical problems" the more this war proceeds.

 

[prokhorudro]

What Iran has done is incredible. With it's mosaic structure(decentralized) government, they have basically raised their whole army as guerillas. But how did they maintain stabilty? I mean without central command their should be infighting. Or maybe the assasination we see are results from it. that they have a lot of traitors. Still maintaining command structure is impressive.
@Persian Gulf

 

[tsunset]

Iran suffered alot.

Nuclear reactors destroyed
Chief / govt officials / religious officials dead
Navy destroyers gone
1000s dead.
Infrastructure gone

And how many Israeli and usa got killed? 1 to 500 ratio

Iran suffered but is far from losing, and don't tell me that the US objectives were to "destroy the navy and air defenses", this is ridiculous and the Navy was barely a threat to them

- Complete dismantling of the missile program : FAILED

- Complete dismantling of the drone program: FAILED

- Complete obliteration of missile launchers and total suppression of missile launches: EPIC FAIL

- Total obliteration of the nuclear program: FAILED

- Seizing of HEU: FAILED

- Unconditional surrender: FAILED

- Killing Khamenei and other figures will make Iran surrender: EPIC FAIL (replaced Khamenei with even more hardline Khamenei, replaced moderate Larijani with ultra hardcore IRGC veteran)

- Total air superiority over all of Iran: FAILED

- Complete stop of missile launches against the region: FAILED

- Regime change: EPIC FAIL

- Opening of Hormuz: FAILED

and many other objectives failed in now 30 days

 

[Immortals]

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[Foinikas]

They should explain why they are expelling Iran's ambassador and not expelling Israel who is literally annexing their country

Because,apparently for a lot of Lebanese,it's Hizbollah getting them in trouble. Historically and objectively,Iran did use Hizbollah as their launchpad in the Levant. That was their intention from the start,to export the Iranian Revolution. The Palestinian cause and the occupation of Lebanon by the Israelis and the SLA was what gave Hizbollah a reason to fight. And they were good at it. They became the best,most disciplined Arab militia in decades. But that's all in the past now.

 

[ShapurII]

I'm saying,they can roam almost freely over your air space or plot on the ground and all you guys can do is fire a wave every day and that's it. I remember ever since the time of Ahmadinejad,Iran was "destroying Israel" every month. Giving a "harsh reply" every now and then. Literally nothing would happen. 20 years now we've been hearing Iranians boast about "wiping Israel from the face of the earth" and things like that.

It has been the declared tactic of the Iranian regime for decades that Iran would not invest in an air force and would allow them air superiority. How is that an achievement when Iran had already based his entire military doctrine on this?

And they have been boasting about regime change for 47 years. What happened? Millions of Iranians flooded the streets of Iran calling for regime change and even then, the US and Israel failed miserably again. What happened to we will hit Iran in a way that they cannot rebuild their nation?

And when you are at war,the strategy is "fire 40 missiles today,50 drones tomorrow,50 missiles the other day",while losing military and political leaders one after the other.
You're tactics are not working. Just as your internal counterintelligence and the majority of your Air Defence. Man,I'm just saying this because you had hyped it SOOOO MUCH all these years. Even on this forum just 2-3 years ago. We're talking about such hype,right now Americans should have lost half their fleet and Israelis all of their Air Force.

Our tactics are working greatly. This war will bring the Western economy and her allies to the point of collapse if it continues for a few more weeks. The US is already begging to contact Iranian officials to seek a ceasefire and they're being denied and ridiculed right and left. That's not the typical behavior of the winning side. Only the losing side begs for negotiations.

So basically,you're telling me Iran is winning. Is that what you're telling me,Iran is winning?

That's not what I'm telling you. That is what is happening.

 

[LittleFish]

Iran suffered alot.

Nuclear reactors destroyed
Chief / govt officials / religious officials dead
Navy destroyers gone
1000s dead.
Infrastructure gone

And how many Israeli and usa got killed? 1 to 500 ratio

Yes however the most important thing is Iran didn't captiulate... Lived to fight another day...

“We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for paganism. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world.”——Grand Ayatollah Khomeini

 

[VCheng]

Iran suffered alot.

Nuclear reactors destroyed
Chief / govt officials / religious officials dead
Navy destroyers gone
1000s dead.
Infrastructure gone

And how many Israeli and usa got killed? 1 to 500 ratio

Those are all tactical victories, but Iran is far ahead strategically still, in terms of the overall score card.

 

[Foinikas]

Is Lebanon a viable nation state? I tend to think not. I tend to think that it has been set up to fail.

It used to be viable State and very succesful,in fact it was very prosperous and could have been a small Middle-Eastern Switzerland but...by the '70s leftist politics were coming in.Palestinians were becoming a problem,sides were getting polarized,sectarianism started flaring up.

Ever since then it's all fubar. Although it's still one of the most bizzare places on the planet. It can be beautiful and relaxed in one moment and full of war and internal fighting the next.

 

[Watandar]

Because,apparently for a lot of Lebanese,it's Hizbollah getting them in trouble. Historically and objectively,Iran did use Hizbollah as their launchpad in the Levant. That was their intention from the start,to export the Iranian Revolution. The Palestinian cause and the occupation of Lebanon by the Israelis and the SLA was what gave Hizbollah a reason to fight. And they were good at it. They became the best,most disciplined Arab militia in decades. But that's all in the past now.

The Lebanese Shia were also the most downtrodden community in the country and were left to the mercy of Israel and the Phalangist/SLA militias. It's not surprising they decided to take matters into their own hands. You can only abuse a community so much.

 

[Immortals]

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[Meengla]

Sirens sound in Galilee amid Hezbollah rocket attack

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www.timesofisrael.com

The waves keep coming and they seem to be hitting more and more everyday

Seems like it.
Also an Israeli news outlet had an IDF Colonel saying that the 220 pound missile which hit Tel Aviv yesterday and caused a lot of damage was the first time he had seen such a missile.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Weren't these the Italian Eurofighters?

The Italian ones ( x 2 ) were damaged but repairable. The Kuwaiti ones were write offs.

 

[tsunset]

It used to be viable State and very succesful,in fact it was very prosperous and could have been a small Middle-Eastern Switzerland but...by the '70s leftist politics were coming in.Palestinians were becoming a problem,sides were getting polarized,sectarianism started flaring up.

Ever since then it's all fubar. Although it's still one of the most bizzare places on the planet. It can be beautiful and relaxed in one moment and full of war and internal fighting the next.

So if we hear you all the problems are because of Palestinians and Hezbollah, and that if they never existed Israel would have never annexed parts of Lebanon and would have let them become a middle east Switzerland