Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Mutakalim]

For the regional stability it has to be Pakistan, Türkiye, Egypt, Iran and Saudi Arabia setting the core regional security and economic architecture and forever bar any foreign intervention in the region. The mechanisms should be set forth to resolve disputes and smaller statelets cut down to size... they can exist but not on the backs of foreign patronage.

This is the solution to majority of region's economic, strategic and social problems. However, the petrol dollar system, the crusades and petty interests of elites are against this arrangement.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Bengal71]

Russia is pro-Israel. What makes you think that Russia will do that for us?

I don't know if they will do or not. I am mentioning some options, it's worth exploring all your options.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Cash gk]

Iran's conditions are very, very strong. I think these Fair demands

 

[عقاب]

This is the solution to majority of region's economic, strategic and social problems. However, the petrol dollar system, the crusades and petty interests of elites are against this arrangement.

It can definitely be promising except The problem in the entire equation is the saudi rulers, the progeny of lawrence of arabia

 

[ShapurII]

I don't know if they will do or not. I am mentioning some options, it's worth exploring all your options.

Iran's only available option during the war (i.e. before it ends) is Pakistan, but Pakistan is pro-US and pro-Saudi.

This is why I ridiculed the Iranian officials when they threatened to go nuclear if Iran is attacked. I said: "Who says you'll be given a chance to go nuclear after you're attacked?"

Trump literally destroyed Iran's path towards nuclear weapons. Iran's 440 kg of 60% HEU is Iran's only remaining hope but Khamenei wasted another 9 months doing nothing.

I cannot see a path towards nuclear weapons during the ongoing Ramadhan war. Maybe after it ends, we can do something. In fact, we must do something or we will be attacked again and again until it's over.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

my instinct says, fatwa will come from GA Sistani but only to protect local population
(as is always the case with these fatwas)

 

[Meengla]

No wonder he thinks he’s winning

US Presidents had been shown all kind of false data before but smarter Presidents still most often double checked and then triple checked. I recall a docu on the Cuban Missile Crisis where President John F. Kennedy, despite being goaded by his advisors to be strong against the Soviets, had the instincts to learn from the Bay of Pigs on Cuba debacle and so JFK came to a reasonable compromise when the Cuban Missile Crisis happened. Even Biden-- the most pro Israel President in America until Trump came to power-- had denied the Netanyahu request to attack Iran when the Israel-Gaza war was raging in last few years.
But now what we have in the White House is an arrogant Man-Child--a guy doesn't fear any consequences except an unlikely Impeachment should the Democrats gain enough power through the Midterms.
To understand President Trump's actions is to understand his psychology and that is of a consumed Narcist, a Care Free Man, and of a Netanyahu vassal. He is very old anyway and doesn't care except perhaps to secure his Place in History.

 

[عقاب]

China's interest is only China!

For that you'll have to understand their philosophy "Five principles of peaceful coexistence"...
Unless core Chinese interests are directly threatened or sabotaged, China will not bite.
For the regional stability it has to be Pakistan, Türkiye, Egypt, Iran and Saudi Arabia setting the core regional security and economic architecture and forever bar any foreign intervention in the region. The mechanisms should be set forth to resolve disputes and smaller statelets cut down to size... they can exist but not on the backs of foreign patronage.

It can definitely be promising except The problem in the entire equation is the saudi rulers, the progeny of lawrence of arabia.
Trump has the ability to extrac all kind of deals and money from this family, remember they campaigned on BBC what happened to Jamal Kashogi and the prince who directly ordered it.
Saudi rulers are the most compromised.
They get black mailed and they blackmail the entire islamic world

 

[Fatman17]

Pakistan has delivered a proposal from the United States to Iran, and either Pakistan or Turkiye could be venues for discussions to de-escalate the war in the Gulf, a senior Iranian official told Reuters on Wednesday.

The comments, by an official speaking on condition of anonymity, were among the few signs that Tehran was willing to consider diplomatic proposals, despite having denied in public that it would negotiate with the administration of US President Donald Trump.

Read more: https://www.dawn.com/news/1985233/p...could-host-talks-senior-iranian-official-says

 

[Immortals]

Former MI6 Head says Iran is winning the war