Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Reports of heavy losses suffered by the US Army/US Marines continue to circulate. This is according to MroWesna and TruePromise, who report Iranian attacks on hidden US special forces camps in Dubai (once with 100, and then 400), which were supposed to carry out or were already in the midst of landing maneuvers on Kharg. The Iranians are said to have detected this early on and intervened "successfully." We will see in the coming hours what is true and what is not.

 
InshAllah they all leave in body bags.
You don't necessarily want that to happen.

Iran's strategy should be not just to eliminate any invaders but also to capture as many as possible as PoWs. This provides a slew of advantages. For instance, they could be used:
- as leverage in any future negotiations
- as human shields to protect critical Iranian sites, as well as to pre-empt the possiblity of a Zionist nuke attack
- to buttress Iran's carefully managed (so far) narrative war to put psychological/political pressure on Zionist forces

Furthermore, Iran should, at the end of war, continue to hold on to some of them in order to mediate post-war Zionist behavior (note that the Zionists are very sore losers and may, out of pure contempt, bomb Iran on the way out, just as Soviet forces did whilst departing Afghanistan in 1989)

The body bags + PoW combo should therefore be the goal, serving up the double whammy of a Vietnam-style debacle + Iran hostage crisis (2026 edition) rolled into one!
 
BREAKING: This is another footage showing the activity of C-RAM short-range air defense batteries of the USMC protecting U.S. diplomatic facilities in Erbil, northern Iraq. You can see them firing at incoming one-way attack drones of the IRGC Aerospace Force.

#OperationEpicFury #OperationLionsRoar

 
Dont know if its been posted here before but turkish and egyptian Foreign Ministers have arrived in Islamabad tonight something is cooking
saudi will arrive soon also just a quad meeting
security is also tight
 
Dont know if its been posted here before but turkish and egyptian Foreign Ministers have arrived in Islamabad tonight something is cooking

It is one of NY Times top stories right now:


Pakistani officials will host talks beginning Sunday with the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Egypt, Pakistan’s foreign ministry said on Saturday, in the country’s latest efforts to mediate the war in the Middle East.

Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud of Saudi Arabia, Hakan Fidan of Turkey and Badr Abdelatty of Egypt are expected to hold “in-depth discussions” on regional tensions over two days in Islamabad, the capital, the foreign ministry said. They are also scheduled to meet Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif of Pakistan.

Pakistan has its own stake in the regional crisis, including an energy crunch, and it has recently intensified efforts at shuttle diplomacy between the United States and Iran.

Pakistani leaders, who are close to both President Trump and President Masoud Pezeshkian of Iran, have passed messages between the two countries and engaged in a flurry of telephone calls.

Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, the country’s army chief, has been focusing on Mr. Trump, while Pakistan’s top two civilian leaders, including Mr. Sharif, have spoken with at least 20 world leaders over the past week, according to the foreign ministry.

On Saturday, Mr. Sharif spoke by phone with Mr. Pezeshkian for over an hour, according to a statement from Mr. Sharif. Mr. Sharif condemned “continued Israeli attacks on Iran, including recent strikes on civilian infrastructure,” the statement said. It did not make any direct reference to the United States.

Mr. Sharif also briefed Mr. Pezeshkian on Pakistan’s outreach to Washington and to countries in the Persian Gulf and elsewhere in the region, “to facilitate dialogue and de-escalation,” the statement said.

The diplomatic outreach comes even as Pakistan is in a state of open conflict with Afghanistan, where it has carried out dozens of airstrikes that have killed at least 200 civilians, according to the United Nations.

Pakistan shares a roughly 560-mile border with Iran. The chaos there threatens to spill over into Balochistan, a resource-rich province in southwestern Pakistan along that border, where the Pakistani government is battling a separatist insurgency.

Pakistan is home to one of the largest Shiite populations outside Iran, and many of them look to Tehran for religious guidance. The Pakistani government must navigate differing priorities among its Middle Eastern partners, particularly Saudi Arabia, which it signed a defense pact with last year.

Analysts say a prolonged conflict could fuel sectarian tensions, further disrupt fuel supplies and deepen economic pressure in Pakistan.

“By advocating de-escalation and serving as a messenger, Pakistan has signaled it does not want to be drawn into a broader conflict,” said Farhan Hanif Siddiqi, an international relations professor at the Institute of Business Administration in Karachi.
 
Kuwait and UAE banned visas to Egyptians also
They will now all import Indian workers en masse, just like Israel. The gambit of importing Pakistani and Egyptian workers and then using remittances as leverage against said countries didn't work.
 
They will now all import Indian workers en masse, just like Israel. The gambit of importing Pakistani and Egyptian workers and then using remittances as leverage against said countries didn't work.
Ya, they are very angry at Egyptians for supporting Iran during this war but I feel that this war will end the gulf countries for good, just a feeling.
 
@Falcon29

Please move all Lebanon conversations to the specific Lebanon-Israel war thread .......

If there is a ceasefire in Iran I will but the two fronts are linked at the moment. It is better to have one central thread same with anything happening in Iraq and Yemen.
 
I am surprised that we are not focusing on one of the root causes of why the Iranians are fighting the way they are. The Shia school of thought in Islam is very different to others in the form that every child is born and bred in an atmosphere of martyrdom, fighting against oppression and vengeance. All 11 shia imams have been martyred across the Arabian peninsula. Shia school of thought has all conventionalities that preside in the other thoughts ( like prayer, hajj, zakat and fasting) but it is supercharged with this seed of martyrdom, because the history is full of it, that makes it very martial in essence. The first imam is unanimously the greatest fighter/warrior the religion has produced (there is a very proud chain of such warriors that existed but sadly it’s a near extinct breed now) and the last imam is designated as the Mahdi. So from a pure mindset point of view there are going in this with nothing to lose. Lastly, if anybody wants proof, look at the way the leaders of Iran and Hezbollah have been martyred, any other nation or organization probably would have been fractured permanently but here they are getting even more vicious because it’s not one person they are following it’s the atmosphere they have been born into and constantly bred in to their every fibre of being. I apologize if this post is off topic, that was not my intention.
 

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