Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

RescueRanger said:
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Egyptian Delegation arrives at Foreign Office in Islamabad.
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Will the Quadrilateral meeting underway in Islamabad achieve anything concrete remains to be seen.
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It's not a tea party, something pretty impactful is going to come out this gathering... well , that's the expectation.
 
vizier said:
Well in that sense closing of hurmuz and later on bab al mandab will not benefit the bankers as domino stones will fall over them at the end. the burden will be on usa economy and ultimately on these z. bankers. The crisis will be much worse than previous economic crisis and they called for it like an isis suicide bomber sacrificing usa to secure isreal. Local american population will also be effected from the economic crisis so there will be protests and unrests. It wont be a walk in the park to maintain order in usa as the conflict drags on and that wont be good for the elite.

Also as we saw in epstein files these elite are into secret societies and eventhough they claim they are atheists we cannot know what they actually believe in. Until now their illogical actions seem to show that they consider the current israeli regime as the biblical israel itself jews returning back to holy land so on as mentioned in the Bible. So targeting isreal would have a higher leverage than targeting Usa mainland as a nuclear deterrence. They seem to give much more value to these "chosen" people than ordinary usa citizens and channel usa citizens money,resources to isreal through ngos, z.owned corporations and aipac related donations.
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Could USA bankers elite buy same products and services everyday with Hormuz closed? Yes they will, so they dont give a fck.

It's like tariffs. Tariffs is a economic mayhem for a lot of American and foreign companies. Does it affect to USA bankers elite life standards? They could have less financial earnings, like in Iran war, but they could enjoy same products and services until the day they die, so they really dont care.

What could affect to the life standards of USA elite? Lack of raw materials and energy. Fracking will have problems in the 2030s. And a lot of raw materials are peaking in last and coming years. And of course, the threat of China ascending military power.

What is the way to avoid those problems? Easy, impoverish everybody else. Instigate wars, destruction of rich countries like GCC in Iran war, and Europe in Ukraine war. So raw materials and energy future supply wont be a problem, because whole Eurasia will be impoverished due to wars in rich zones, and energy/raw materials consumption will decrease.

The plan is not so hard, just destroy things when resources supply is in danger.

The hard is the narrative of American nonsenses and lies to conceal the simple real reason.

It's a good strategy to be rational, pretending be irrational with the shabbo goy orange monkey, and to provoke a irrational behavior in your enemies (due to religious, ethnics, nationalistic emotions), and that is exactly what USA elite is doing.

Forget every byte of information that it comes from USA, it's all lies. And just observe what USA really does.
 
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LOL 6 (make that 5) E-3 Sentries are currently stationed in KSA.
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Orcs will Orc. Iran needs to up their optics to portray the Us-raeli savages as to what they really are. Orcs.
 
ResurgentIran2 said:
You just mentioned reasons for why it could turn really ugly and have the potential to make an actual difference.
Social unrest and uppheaval happens because of societal anger and disenchantment with the state and its institutions. Not because whether or not Trump allows it to happen.

Trump have sown the perfect seeds for societal anger and uppheaval. He is absolutely hated by a majority of the population. His own MAGA base has fractured and shrunk. High profile such as Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greene and the latest Joe Kent have left him and is openly saying Trump is acting at the behest of a foreign country and leader. Trump has betrayed his election promises and his constituents. Even the average joe republican workers are beginning to realise what a fraud this guy is.

Wait a month or two with oil rising to 175 dollars a barrel. That will be a catastrophe for everyone (middle class and under) except the super rich.
Combine that with American soldiers dying en masse in a war of CHOICE, for the interest of an apartheid genocidal state.
You havent seen anything yet. Things can turn really nasty when the people come for Trumps jugular. And I believe there is a real chance of that.
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Does anyone actually still trust what he says or promises after seeing his first term in the white House ? He is a big ego lunatic and warmonger that is entirely capable of starting world war. I couldn't believe many people including quite a few on this forum actually believed he is a peace loving angel that is going to save the world from wars and destructions when he got elected second time.
 
mythbuster said:
It's not a tea party, something pretty impactful is going to come out this gathering... well , that's the expectation.
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Nothing actionable will come of it unfortunately. It is still wise to try and Pakistan has to try for this is a grave matter regarding our own future security. Unfortunately, there simply aren't many levers that uninvolved nations can pull here.
 
Iran’s coup de grace against USAF electronic warfare

I want to correct my report about 2 AWACS planes being destroyed. It was actually 1 AWACS E-3, but the picture actually gets worse for the US. In addition to the E-3, two EC-130Hs were damaged beyond repair.

These jets are top tier SEAD assets, vital to suppressing air defenses through jamming and monitoring. They were going to be used in the invasion of an Iranian island. The idea was these planes in addition to Growlers would target and suppress AD while the 82nd flew in with helicopters.

Iran preempted this move and destroyed the asset.

These planes are RARE, and only 3 remained in service before this attack. Now it’s just 1. These are even more painful than AWACS losses and the equipment onboard is extremely sensitive so it’s likely a total loss even if the surface damage seems less than the AWACS.

The Iranians have just murdered the United States’s ability to combat China and Russia at the same time. The US built 14 of these but it’s unlikely the decommissioned planes can still fulfil this role because the electronics within them are constantly upgraded.

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Fun fact : Complete air superioty over Iran is a lie. US and isreali jets aren't entering Irani airspace ,they are hitting targets from a distance using stand off weapons. There is a working air defense system of Iran as we speak.And completely obliterating air defense of Iran is another lie.
 
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