Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[r3alist]

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[kobra]

I'll write this here, and we can judge it later:

If Iran accepts a ceasefire, before the ceasefire goes into effect, Israel will bomb the remaining targets on its list, excluding power plants. Even if the ceasefire gives them just one hour, they will use it.

It will be another moral victory for Iran... Like no developing Nuke was, as Islam prohibits WMD .. BTW If Israil attacks whitin hour then it will have no surprise element and there wont be much change in defensive or offensive posture of Iran immediately after deals get announced. Iran will probably carry on the attacks as decided right now.. However it will be highly embarrassing for mediators

 

[unconventional]

Micro drones have not been a factor this time

We hit an F-35 and F-15 this time

This time the U.S. joined Israel with 10,000+ strikes within a month, we have not many air defences for a massive mountainous country, not much we can do about that within 9 months

Iran made a strategic blunder by not fully aligning itself with China over the years. That’s the plain truth.

 

[Falcon29]

But Muslims leaders are silently watching ...

It's not Muslims responsibility alone.

Israel and the Jewish-American community are behaving like rabid dogs.

It's the collective world responsibility to neutralize the threat coming from them because it is worse than Nazi Germany

 

[r4hmed]

What's the fastest they could get a nuke together if there is a ceasefire

 

[KingQamaR]

I think Pak PM is doing right its a hard balancing act. But if you are Iran you was likely not accept opening the SOH with no concessions and then to be bombed 2 weeks later when they replenish their missile stocks get more troops in and go in for a land invasion.

That is the threat Iran faces, it needs a credible deterrence to accept a ceasefire. If China or Russia provided guarantee's on-top we could get there.

Let’s see what happens from here in theory Iranians should reject any deal from now onwards

 

[BigMela2onin]

It seems some Iranians in this forum are pretty confident of Iran's ability to exact a lot of pain on Israel. I hope they are right but so far, sadly, I don't see evidence supporting that.
So I agree with your post: Take the two-week ceasefire if on the offer. Iran will still have the firepower to cause havoc in Israel after two weeks. Meanwhile, regroup for any eventual fight.

Every forum member arguing for a ceasfire will be forced to pay me $1 for every ceasefire violation in the coming weeks. I expect to be tens of thousands of dollars richer soon.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Even a temporary cessation will have terms to it, and if they get broken then you leave the room and resume.

Read it again! The clown doesn't abide by any... having two positions in one sentence. Leveraging each...

Yes of course that would mean the Americans can strategize but then it could be useful for Iran as well.

The only thing useful for Iran is pressure... exactly the heat that is on right now! Collapse the oil markets and bring the oil to $200... let orange deal with the fallout for the war he started...

Not carry water for the deranged deceptive maniac.

It depends how cute you want to get about it, the biggest obstacle is making this happen for the first time, because no one wants to project weakness, but once talks have happened once it makes a path for the future more possible

The only path is manifest.... pull back... evacuate bases... as they were done in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

Ultimately it depends on the vision for the route to the end game, there is one version where you have multiple rounds of talks, in between the fighting which ultimately brings everyone closer to an agreement, I don't really see that as ceding any leverage because Iran already has established control on the flow of ships, they maintain missile capability and in any case will be prepared for a ground invasion.

The ground invasion is absolute disaster for orange and will end the 180 window of opportunity he is using to attack Iran. And the elections that are coming this fall.

What is obviously discomforting is the alternate vision on rhetoric around an apocalyptic escalation spiral that just keeps on going without pause, and then somehow emerges a winner and a willing loser.

The apocalypse is coming from zion and they will pursue it as demons sent from hell!

 

[Starlord]

But Muslims leaders are silently watching ...

You want Muslim leaders to respond to Ben Shapiro's rants? really? his own comment section roast him, his Daily wire lost millions of viewers and subscribers, and right wing pundits are shitting on his loyalty to Israel and Zionism, he is nothing but a shill, you don't give or pay attention to people like him.

 

[kobra]

In a little while, Trump might tweet:

The Prime Minister of Pakistan asked me to extend the deadline, and he's a great and very smart man, and I love him, and he says good things about me, so I'm going to extend it, especially since Iran has shown seriousness in the negotiations, and the war might end soon

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90% probability of this happening....Good for Pakistans's posture

 

[Falcon29]

Iran's UN Representative Amir Saeid Iravani: We will not accept a temporary ceasefire

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[Immortals]

Less than 2 hours until Trump’s deadline

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[ShapurII]

It will be another moral victory for Iran... Like no developing Nuke was, as Islam prohibits WMD .. BTW If Israil attacks whitin hour then it will have no surprise element and there wont be much change in defensive or offensive posture of Iran immediately after deals get announced. Iran will probably carry on the attacks as decided right now.. However it will be highly embarrassing for mediators

It looks more like a total humiliation than a moral victory.

No, I think you misunderstood me. Suppose that Iran and the US sign a ceasefire that goes into effect on April 8th, 2026 at 10:00 AM GMT.

Israel will drop every remaining munitions it has on the remaining targets of its list before 09:59 AM. They will not let one minute of the time before going into effect go to waste.

 

[PakistanLVR]

just my two cents, maybe even a short "cease-fire" will provide Trump with the off-ramp. My only concern is repositioning and resupply. Also, they can the short-time to do a proper BDA and figure any movement across Iran that can point out missile cities. I hope I'm correct, but Iran still has the capability and enough enriched uranium, speed towards building the bomb. Make it operational.

on a side note, I see indian are coming out of the woodlines to start chimping out on this thread. Need to be an auto-banned for them, except @rishi7887