Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[r3alist]

Pakistan is getting played to get time to get their forces ready for a larger round of attacks Saudis are more than willing to use Pakistan to do that it’s not a dig on Pakistan so don’t get offended just saying I don’t trust Saudis trump or Bibi to be playing the peacemakers they want Iran in a ball of fire and Bibi has said they’re not done not by a mile so if I have to believe he will attack Iran again sooner than later ceasefire or peace or anything in between and trump will be there with him if not in the beginning maybe in the middle or the end

What larger round of attacks do you actually imagine? Oh maybe just stop trying to think too much?

At the end of the day iran consented to these talks.

Pakistan signalled on behalf of Iran that the Iranian stockpile of missiles remains significant and in the thousands, therefore hopes have been rising more and more across the world and internal pressure in the US is building.

If things do not work out then you can dismiss the last week as a semi-pause and then go back to whatever you think is best.....

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[r3alist]

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[mangekyo]

Inaccurate analogy, though I do take your general point.

Pakistan is trying to broker peace impartially, by bringing a very powerful and destructive enemy to the table to talk to you, and at the moment, that is all that matters.

How is it inaccurate?

So you actually want a form of fealty or self harming deference.

Because that statement aggressively strips any basic context away from Pakistan's own dynamics and considerations.

It has nothing to do with fealty. I get that you’re loyal to your country, but you know very well what Saudi is guilty of.

 

[Immortals]

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[Shags101]

What larger round of attacks do you actually imagine? Oh maybe just stop trying to think too much?

At the end of the day iran consented to these talks.

Pakistan signalled on behalf of Iran that the Iranian stockpile of missiles remains significant and in the thousands, therefore hopes have been rising more and more across the world and internal pressure in the US is building.

If things do not work out then you can dismiss the last week as a semi-pause and then go back to whatever you think is best.....

I

I think it’s best that they stop killing innocent Iranians as they profess Iran itself had done but now openly admit they supplied a lot of weapons to those who mixed themselves with innocent protesters not thinking to much other than they have never kept their words previously no reason to do so now but will see what happens

 

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Everyone go to sleep. It’s over for tonight.

 

[r3alist]

How is it inaccurate?

It has nothing to do with fealty. I get that you’re loyal to your country, but you know very well what Saudi is guilty of.

I am not even clear about what you are unhappy with.


Pakistan UAE relations by the way are pretty much on life support right now if not worse, this has been diplomatic collateral for Pakistan in its support for Iran.

If you honestly think the Saudi, where Mecca and Medina are, should be considered in the same way you should go for a walk

 

[Immortals]

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[mangekyo]

You will have to explain that hypothetical more, as Saudi has not directly bombed Iran.

Since Emiratis asked for their $3.5 billion back, Pakistan has to find the cash somewhere and there is a relationship with Saudi to maintain as well. The force deployed is defensive and limited to a few sectors so that Pakistan fulfills its commitment to Saudi Arabia without major affect on the overall situation.

Myself don't like the Saudis but I do understand and see Pakistan threading the needle. It's good statecraft after a very very long time.

By actively providing their territory to launch attacks on us. They don’t need to participate with their own planes to be directly involved you know.

So, would you say it’s good statecraft if the situation were reversed?

 

[Watandar]

By actively providing their territory to launch attacks on us. They don’t need to participate with their own planes to be directly involved you know.

So, would you say it’s good statecraft if the situation were reversed?

Yes I would. It's called realpolitik.

 

[Cash gk]

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If you're trying to convince people, then you've already lost.

 

[mangekyo]

I am not even clear about what you are unhappy with.


Pakistan UAE relations by the way are pretty much on life support right now if not worse, this has been diplomatic collateral for Pakistan in its support for Iran.

If you honestly think the Saudi, where Mecca and Medina are, should be considered in the same way you should go for a walk

What exactly is not clear? You’re sending millitary forces to a country that is participating in a war against us. This is while we are your guests. Obviously I am not going it celebrate it.

 

[r3alist]

By actively providing their territory to launch attacks on us. They don’t need to participate with their own planes to be directly involved you know.

So, would you say it’s good statecraft if the situation were reversed?

So you're saying you could support India, and that is an equivalent scenario in your head?

In fact what exactly are you saying.