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KingQamaR said:
Let’s be clear friend; US-Israel strikes on Iran led to this. Islamic Republic of Iran suffered an illegal attack which has killed thousands and caused billions in destruction, Iran should now charge them a toll in Hormuz to pay for these damages.

And international law has been blown out of the water, or hadn’t you noticed. .. thanks to USA arrogance and dumb fuckery. So now might makes right , and Iran has the guns to control Hormuz and Orange 🍊 man is impotent to stop it.
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No sane mind can dispute the fact that the war on Iran is illegal and that it was imposed when talks were being held in a very positive atmosphere between the US and Iran. Iran was betrayed, multiple times by the US. The destruction and every act by the US and Israel were illegal, insane and inhumane. But the strait of Hormuz is used by countries which have no role in the war, like Pakistan. Why should we be expected to pay a toll?

Yes, I agree there is no longer any such thing as international law. The prevailing law today is "Might is RIGHT!".

But at the same time, to think that Iran has the guns to control the Strait of Hormuz is highly exaggerated. I mean, yeah, they can challenge it for a while but if the US decides it must use military might to defend the Strait, how long can Iran hold on to it? And do you know what kind of damage the US can cause to Iran?
 
HAIDER said:
Let's wait , Iran fought and fought well and now ..... they build the country after US-GCC-Iraq 8 years war and now again US-Israel attack Iran. They show resilience and wipe out US bases in GCC to Jordan.

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I am not undermining their resolve (or whatever it can be called). I am just questioning their approach aimed at defeating a super power, that too just with drones and missiles, without realizing what will happen to Irani people in all that fighting.

When hundreds of enemy planes fly 24/7 in Iranian airspace during the war searching for targets worth attacking, fow how long you can rely on those drones and missiles. If a superpower faces humiliation (for failing in subduing a country like Iran), it will resort to total destruction of Iranian infrastructure without thinking what might happen to world economy. Isn't it a foolish policy to push a superpower to do that rather than trying to avoid it?

Iran is in what it currently is in due to exactly that kind of rogue policies of 47 years. No one else is to be blamed for that.
 
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EDITORIAL: AS the fate of the US-Iran peace talks expected to be held in Islamabad hangs in the balance, the international community remains on tenterhooks. At the time of writing, Iran had not made a decision about attending, citing mistrust of the US, and violations of the ceasefire allegedly committed by America. The two-week truce is due to end soon.

As per Tehran, there are three main irritants that have called the status of the talks into question: America’s blockade of Iranian ports, its attack on an Iranian cargo ship on Sunday, and delays in the Lebanon ceasefire. Unless these issues are addressed, and there is some sort of compromise, it is difficult to say whether the second round will go ahead, even as the Americans are reportedly due in Islamabad this morning.

Read more: https://www.dawn.com/news/1993661
 
Iranian state television issues an on-screen alert saying “no delegation from Iran has visited Islamabad ... so far” as speculation about possible talks with the United States grows.

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gamaji said:
When hundreds of enemy planes fly 24/7 in Iranian airspace during the war searching for targets worth attacking, fow how long you can rely on those drones and missiles. If a superpower faces humiliation (for failing in subduing a country like Iran), it will resort to total destruction of Iranian infrastructure without thinking what might happen to world economy. Isn't it a foolish policy to push a superpower to do that rather than trying to avoid it?
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I believe Iran is trying to avoid the frightening scenario that you presented and that's why, despite widespread anger, the Iranians participated in the Islamabad Talks One and are almost certainly going to attend the upcoming Talks.
The scenario you present is possible, even likely, but it will not be cost free to the region, to the global economy, and even to the Americans, on top of the potential for grave damage to Israel. Iranians have demonstrated that they can bring down aircrafts and I don't think they are as sitting ducks as perceived to be. Imagine several downed with deaths and imprisonments.
There will not be a 'victory' for America either as the Iranians are not going to capitulate.
 
gamaji said:
I am not undermining their resolve (or whatever it can be called). I am just questioning their approach aimed at defeating a super power, that too just with drones and missiles, without realizing what will happen to Irani people in all that fighting.

When hundreds of enemy planes fly 24/7 in Iranian airspace during the war searching for targets worth attacking, fow how long you can rely on those drones and missiles. If a superpower faces humiliation (for failing in subduing a country like Iran), it will resort to total destruction of Iranian infrastructure without thinking what might happen to world economy. Isn't it a foolish policy to push a superpower to do that rather than trying to avoid it?

Iran is in what it currently is in due to exactly that kind of rogue policies of 47 years. No one else is to be blamed for that.
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This is also what I am saying, Iranians are being drama queen at this stage.

Even without war, they were very far from making a nuke bomb. They have been building it for 30 years now. So nuke they can't have. Why have your country and people suffer for that? Instead use it to bargain, have the sanctions removed, assets unfrozen and let free oil/gas flow.

Iran can gain a lot by being able to sell its crude oil and gas on the open market.
 
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