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It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
 
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Foinikas said:
It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a threat,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engaged with him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back to his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
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best of luck gem
 
I miss the old forum. Whenever there was a security event or a war, I would immediately go to PDF not Twitter and there would already be a thread with active member discussions.

Now, all I see are generic, unrelated threads at the top. If something happens, I have to search for it instead of finding it right away
 
Foinikas said:
It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
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Most of the top traffic members here are Pakistani kids with a lot of free time, don't take their likes and dislikes seriously. Mature Pakistanis have to go through the same disappointment. The stregnth of this forum is the diverse perspectives, but it takes time to swift through most of it which is noise.
 
maverik said:
I miss the old forum. Whenever there was a security event or a war, I would immediately go to PDF not Twitter and there would already be a thread with active member discussions.

Now, all I see are generic, unrelated threads at the top. If something happens, I have to search for it instead of finding it right away
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Or have to go through a 50,000 page thread,half of it being irrelevant nonsense or bickering
 
Foinikas said:
It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
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For the record - I did like Erdogon in the beginning, but after he changed the law and took on this never ending presidency I lost allot of respect for him. There are other things many are not happy about such as allowing oil from Azerbaijan to pass through Turkey onto the apartheid state - so we are all not completely thinking Turkey is right on most or all points.

tbh - when it comes to Greece I dont have much thoughts apart from a nice holiday destination, maybe greeks are getting abit fed up of tourists as well (some reports I read), I am fairly neutral when it comes to Greece or the Greek Cypriot part.

Like with most things I will support what is right and will be against what is wrong, even if its against my brother, father or fellow muslim brother.

So although I think you have a facist view at times, over the years it seems to have become lesser, I would recommend to stay and continue the discussions. Maybe mods can make you a mod for a Greek section in PDF :)
 
Foinikas said:
It's been weeks and weeks now that I've been thinking of leaving this place. I'm not sure yet,but every day I feel more encouraged to just up and leave.

For me,being the only greek here is kind of a weird thing. I mean,it was my choice to come on PDF in 2021,but last year or so ...it feels like "wtf am I doing here" for me,personally.

A few things that have been bugging me,in no particular order:

  • You have Fatman now rushing to lock threads asap,often without hearing someone's reasoning. Fatman will just lock a thread,assuming it's trolling or has no valid source or whatever he thinks is wrong with it. At the same time,there's a gazillion "China so super" threads every day by the same people who have been spamming literally 5-10 threads almost daily on PDF that all revolve on pure propaganda reasons.
  • Then you have the merging of threads. If your thread managed not to get locked,it will most probably be merged with some other already existing megathread with hundreds or thousands of pages. I sat down to translate and post photos about the Greek Tank Trials of the '90s,that was supposed to be a seperate thread for the information value and historical and technical data and it disappeared,merged to the European military thread.
  • I've noticed a kind of tendecy the last year,MMM-E is allowed to go rampant on provocative posts,his usual nationalist,superiority complex rants and to go on with endless post spamming of literally the same things,the exact same things. The same lists,the same photos,the same quotes,the same boasting. And when I engage him,I'm the one who gets infractions and posts deleted(not always,but most of the time). Nobody puts that guy back in his place. He used to get banned a lot,sometimes for a week,sometimes for a month. Now it's ok,he can just spam the same nonsense. They tell me to report,I report,then they tell the report button isn't a toy or whatever.
  • You got hyperman adding a "lol" every time he comments on something or replies. Like trolling you. Like being OCD "lol look at Greece" and "lol,they are desperate","lol relax","lol lol lol. Repeatedly told you to stop that hyperman,as it comes across as you being a dick and is disrespectful. Meanwhile hyperman is the guy who will derail a thread to pieces and a few pages later will warn you to stop derailing the thread.
  • Then comes something I've figured out a long time ago about PDF,it's interesting and also kind of sad or disappointing(for me at least): Pakistanis are always extremely reluctant to take a clear stance in threads concerning Greece-Turkey or Greece-Cyprus. Apart from the random ertugrul fan who might jump to say something like "cyprus should belong to turkey becos muslims",I've noticed Pakistanis,even the ones I get along with very very well,are extremely reluctant to comment or even press a like in something that could be considered a "pro-Greek" argument. I mean,you can see a dozen guys reading the thread,nobody will dare go against any Turkish position,I guess as not to offend their "brothers". Of course if one simply does not agree then shouldn't,I'm only saying I've seen Turks agree with me more against other Turks than Pakistanis themselves arguing with any Turks.
  • No PM function. Why does the forum still not have a PM function?
  • Having certain people not being able to make up their minds if I'm a zio-zio or not. I'm tired of having to go through the same vile accusations and bullshit every time I pose an even mildly "what if arabs/muslims/palestinians/iranians/aliens did something nasty to the yahood as well" question. There's always a few people who will jump and say "you lying zio secret fake greek genocide supporter masks have fallen we know your kind" etc etc

Anyway,just some thoughts I wanted to get out.
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When i first encountered you - i instantly took a dislike to your posts
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You must remember our run ins? Now its fine. On a forum you get good and bad bro - just have to remove the thin skin. In reality we would have more in common than what separates us. Chillax -
Tmrw will be a better day
 
Fatman is an adorable young man , he has too much free time.,...he got to do what he got to do.
 
Musings said:
When i first encountered you - i instantly took a dislike to your posts
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You must remember our run ins? Now its fine. On a forum you get good and bad bro - just have to remove the thin skin. In reality we would have more in common than what separates us. Chillax -
Tmrw will be a better day
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First encounters with you are hardly pleasant for anyone.
 
I would certainly be most disappointed if you left but you already know I am a bit of a grecophile! While Turkiye remains a steadfast ally of Pakistan, anyone with an iota of concern for the historical realities that shape all of our lives would certainly respect the importance of your perspectives, whether they agree with them or not.

Certainly it might help you if a couple of other Greeks with military and political interest were on the forum. Try to invite a few perhaps?

But don't feel discouraged. Even by yourself, you should continue with your mission.

After all, if it wasn't for stubborn, bloody minded Greeks, who disregarded the background noise, ignored the naysayers, and just continued along their pre-ordained path, the world would be a boring place.
 
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