mythbuster
SpeedLimited
Taimoor , you know it very well that it can get ugly between us and I don't want to be banned...pipe it down please.
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Taimoor , you know it very well that it can get ugly between us and I don't want to be banned...pipe it down please.
HAIDER
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Actually, majority look under short term gain, US destroy everything in Iran, means US-Israel is the winner. But nations rebuild many time before after total destruction ...a living example of 2nd world war German or Russia . 8 years long Iraq war, when it was 1 vs all.
Taimoor
Elite Member
You are pinning your hope on this clown?
I can understand you lot anxiety which is filtering down from your lords in uniform, their desperation to get the PR they need from the signed deal, but try not to make it obvious?
Taimoor
Elite Member
Mythbuster (don't know your name), when you go overboard in pursue of certain agendas, you need to be put back on track, for your own sake.
lightning f57
Trusted Member
Your worst case scenario isn't happening, that will be Vietnam 2.0.
GCC won't be fine if its a MAD scenario, all their key infra destroyed leaves them in tatters. This is a major deterrence itself.
lightning f57
Trusted Member
It is a waste and just more market manipulation.
Id like Iran to stick with a stance forget this low level games. Say stop blockade and we talk otherwise no talks and SOH stays shut. Keep repeating that to the Americans and lets see if trumpy will taco out again.
Oscar
Moderator
He desperately wants an exit - because he knows every day this war drags on his midterms are dead and even the MAGA crowd along with his Nazi coterie cannot implement crap when they wont have any majority in congress. Even Elon with his hitler cut these days cannot push enough on X because the conversation is on TikTok and places where regardless of Elison trying to control that Gen Z and Millennials have too many avenues for information.
One has to tie back to the overall nazification attempts and how they rely on overwhelming information but not too much where the public actually revolts. That is where this conflict is taking the situation.
As for Iran, even if they are militarily defeated - short of dropping an atomic bomb(which the Israelis are pushing day in and day out with their usual "Epstien Daily drop") there is no "surrender" here.
Your role as Pakistan - or rather your "goal" as Pakistan has largely been met even if a peace deal is not reached. You have made Trump happy when the moment was needed - rubbed the Indians to the floor where their media and online presence cannot think of anything else - and were able to get the Iranians to warm up, the Saudis to warm up - and provide you the buffer you need to keep angsty Khaleejis at bay.
hasn2009
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ghazi52
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US-Iran peace process hits snag as Trump cancels trip of envoys, FM Araghchi leaves Pakistan
'We have all the cards. They can call us anytime they want,' Trump saysReuters/Web DeskApril 25, 2026
A combination of photos shows US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and special envoy Steve Witkoff alongside Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi. Photo: AFP
United States President Donald Trump cancelled a planned trip to Pakistan by envoys Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff for peace talks with Iran, Fox News reported on Saturday, creating another snag in the peace process between the two enemies.
The network said Trump told Fox about the trip's cancellation.
"I've told my people a little while ago they were getting ready to leave, and I said, 'Nope, you're not making an 18-hour flight to go there. We have all the cards. They can call us anytime they want, but you're not going to be making any more 18-hour flights to sit around talking about nothing,'" Trump was quoted as saying by the outlet's White House correspondent.
ghazi52
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Questioned by Axios whether it meant he was going to resume fighting, Trump said: "No. It doesn't mean that. We haven't thought about it yet."
Later, in a post on his social media platform Truth Social, the US president said the decision was taken due to what he termed unnecessary travel and workload considerations.
“I just cancelled the trip of my representatives going to Islamabad, Pakistan, to meet with the Iranians. Too much time wasted on traveling, too much work!” he wrote.
He further claimed there was uncertainty within Iran’s leadership structure. “Besides which, there is tremendous infighting and confusion within their ‘leadership’. Nobody knows who is in charge, including them,” the post added.
Trump also asserted that the United States held a stronger position in any potential engagement. “We have all the cards, they have none! If they want to talk, all they have to do is call,” he said.
Later, in a post on his social media platform Truth Social, the US president said the decision was taken due to what he termed unnecessary travel and workload considerations.
“I just cancelled the trip of my representatives going to Islamabad, Pakistan, to meet with the Iranians. Too much time wasted on traveling, too much work!” he wrote.
He further claimed there was uncertainty within Iran’s leadership structure. “Besides which, there is tremendous infighting and confusion within their ‘leadership’. Nobody knows who is in charge, including them,” the post added.
Trump also asserted that the United States held a stronger position in any potential engagement. “We have all the cards, they have none! If they want to talk, all they have to do is call,” he said.
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Meanwhile, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi also left Pakistan after discussing the overall situation in the region with Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Chief of Defence Forces and Chief of the Army Staff Field Marshal Asim Munir.
FM Araghchi arrived in Islamabad on Friday night.
A statement from the PM Office said he held a meeting with PM Shehbaz in which regional developments and bilateral ties came under discussion.
Deputy PM and FM Ishaq Dar, CDF Munir and Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi were also present
FM Araghchi arrived in Islamabad on Friday night.
A statement from the PM Office said he held a meeting with PM Shehbaz in which regional developments and bilateral ties came under discussion.
Deputy PM and FM Ishaq Dar, CDF Munir and Interior Minister Mohsin Naqvi were also present
arsalan345
Registered Member
It's all over. We tried well but destroyed our own image in the process. It's okay. Our future is with allies and with Arabs. I am expecting an all out war. Make no mistake! Expect Iranian missile attack on Pakistan as well. Lock and load.
Iran can't be controlled under irgc. I knew that the war will reach Tehran but they don't care whether civilians die or not.
It's time to join Arabs before it's too late. Remember our money and oil flows from Arab and Ukraine is trying to steal Pakistani position in Riyadh so it's better to open eyes. Iran wasn't our ally. We did all this for our own safety because nobody wants Israel in Iran. It's okay. Prepare for all scenarios. I am also expecting Indian attack. Pakistan should follow Israel and target Indian leadership within first hour of the fight. India wants same.
This war will go out of control. Pakistan must Use rocket launchers if Iran attacks. I know they can attack. It's crazy but it's irgc and irgc can never be trusted.
Join the Arab coalition. Enough is enough. Without Arabs and their loans, we can't run out country. It's best to protect Riyadh at all cost.
Iran can't be controlled under irgc. I knew that the war will reach Tehran but they don't care whether civilians die or not.
It's time to join Arabs before it's too late. Remember our money and oil flows from Arab and Ukraine is trying to steal Pakistani position in Riyadh so it's better to open eyes. Iran wasn't our ally. We did all this for our own safety because nobody wants Israel in Iran. It's okay. Prepare for all scenarios. I am also expecting Indian attack. Pakistan should follow Israel and target Indian leadership within first hour of the fight. India wants same.
This war will go out of control. Pakistan must Use rocket launchers if Iran attacks. I know they can attack. It's crazy but it's irgc and irgc can never be trusted.
Join the Arab coalition. Enough is enough. Without Arabs and their loans, we can't run out country. It's best to protect Riyadh at all cost.
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