Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

We don't strategize. Its our dilemma as a nation. I see people in this forum, brilliant tactically but ZERO know how about strategic implementations.

Its not about bad PR. Its about how we can secure our border. No amount of security can replace a friendly regime in kabul. You turn them into a sworn enemy then you have to commit 100s of billions of dollars at that border for indefinite amount of time. Also afghanistan is not now the collective power of taliban, its an entry towards Pakistan with 2700 km wide options and whole lot of sponsor lists brewing up in middle-east, israel and india.

A friendly regime, would give us access to central asia and above all we can free up security resources completely. We cannot get friendly regime ever, if we don't care about hitting "charsi houses". No faction will work for us.

There has been countless strategic talks on Afghanistan on this forum even in this thread.

 

[mythbuster]

Pakistanis have a cowardly, timid and cheap mindset. I dont know if its because they pride themselves on Urdu (essentially a UP Hindustani language). But they are insecurity ridden cowards.

Can't even muster courage against people slaughtering them on racial supremacy ideologies like the Afghans.

They are worried about "bad PR" from dead Afghan charsis when in fact thats a good policy, you need extreme force to assert authority and deterrence.

They cant run a country, and they are cowards. Simple logic, someone kills you, you wipe out their villages. But when you have Lahori Urdu-speaking paindus trying to be human rights activists for approval from the world, you get cowardly policies by insecure pussies.

If you are done with your mea culpa rant , kindly tell us about that very special breed of super warriors that you belong to ? Urdu speaking karachites , Sindhis and Punjabis are all pussies as you claim

 

[Ak01]

that very special breed of super warriors that you belong to ?

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

If you are done with your mea culpa rant , kindly tell us about that very special breed of super warriors that you belong to ? Urdu speaking karachites , Sindhis and Punjabis are all pussies as you claim

It's a mindset thing, not a race thing.

And by UrduSpeaking I'm referring not to Mujahirs but Lahoris who learn Urdu and their worldview becomes that of a cuck. All they preach is restraint and look for validation and Muchlim brothers everywhere.

It is no surprise such a cowardly complexed mindset cannot combat the Afghan Taliban. They are ruthless and grounded, no validation seeking or cucked display need of foreign approval.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Pakistanis have a cowardly, timid and cheap mindset. I dont know if its because they pride themselves on Urdu (essentially a UP Hindustani language). But they are insecurity ridden cowards.

Can't even muster courage against people slaughtering them on racial supremacy ideologies like the Afghans.

They are worried about "bad PR" from dead Afghan charsis when in fact thats a good policy, you need extreme force to assert authority and deterrence.

They cant run a country, and they are cowards. Simple logic, someone kills you, you wipe out their villages. But when you have Lahori Urdu-speaking paindus trying to be human rights activists for approval from the world, you get cowardly policies by insecure pussies.

Its so easy to become "brave" on internet and say, "wipe their villages" and so on. Its against basic military warfare goals. Its against your own strategic goals. We cannot transfer Afghanistan to some other place of planet. That is going to be here with us for eternity.

There's a difference bw brave and stupid. I don't want to quote events from islamic history but we were not cowards when we made deals with our sworn enemies. We did those deals and diplomacy because we were smart and we strategize. We waited for right moments, we created contingency plans.

Now when we turned our guns towards afghan taliban (making afg as enemy) and not just TTP, I was thinking that maybe GHQ has a contingency plan already prepared that an alternate group to be funded, armed and a way to do regime change Or atleast keep Taliban busy somewhere else. But I see no such thing.

When a group / a faction attacks your country and kills your civilians. Killing few individuals is not their ONLY goal or end game. They are expecting a response, a retaliation. if you move and wipe out their village. They will be most delighted. Because the ones attacked you, don't give a damn to anyone's lives at any side of the border. They are going after their primary political objectives. They want instability, they want chaos, they want to ensure permanent enmity bw the states, they wanted you to kill civilians on their side of the border. You acted as a pawn. It does not mean, you keep silent. You have to go and punish them where it matters. Do you think Talibs or Ttps care for their own villages? It doesn't punish them. It serves their purpose and firms their control, it silences anyone who may want to ally themselves with Pakistan against Taliban in future.

BTW, I can write extreme nationalistic comments, calling for annihilation of afgans and getting 100s of likes as a result as that is something people want to hear. But should I write what people want to hear Or should I write what is practical.

 

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[VectorZero]

Why would Taliban destroy a bridge anyone? seems like they are planning something big.

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[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Why would Taliban destroy a bridge anyone? seems like they are planning something big.

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Destroying bridges disrupts logistics.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

I have personally noticed that whenever an attack happens, people affiliated with a certain political party only react with laughing emojis and most of them are either afgands or from KpK.

sadly after every terror attack they say we must talk to these TTP people since they cant be defeated through power.
but they have no answer to the issue when appeasing , ceasefire, rehablitation is used by TTP to regroup, rearm and relaunch attacks on Pakistan.

 

[Ak01]

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one of the writers for the iranian c130 story.

 

[mythbuster]

sadly after every terror attack they say we must talk to these TTP people since they cant be defeated through power.
but they have no answer to the issue when appeasing , ceasefire, rehablitation is used by TTP to regroup, rearm and relaunch attacks on Pakistan.

Wait for the gulf crisis to be over , don't be surprised if there's a regime change in Kabul ... it's not a far fetched idea anymore.

 

[313Ghazi]

Not an appropiate comparison.

We are talking about tribals with a jigra system. They have jigras about everything but they can't focus on securing their towns and villages. Give me a break.

There are people within this community who work with afghans to do some blasts and get money from India.

Along with their other business ventures such as drug smuggling and racketeering.

It's extremely comparable in my opinion. You assume tribals are turning a blind eye, just the same way the goray assumed we did. Lakki Marwat has a population of 70,000 people, Bannu has 50,000 (the town, the district has like 1.3 million) - which village uncle do you expect to take a register there?

We have a border, the state took money to build a fence and man it - why is it failing to do that? There is a police force, we have multiple intelligence agencies - what are they doing? If there are people within the community facilitating terrorists - who's been prosecuted for it?

I can give you a list of lawyers, politicial workers, politicians and journalists who the intelligence agencies have "investigated" who are now all locked up or dead.

It's been over 20 years now, multiple governments and dictators have failed to address our most basic security needs.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

It's extremely comparable in my opinion. You assume tribals are turning a blind eye, just the same way the goray assumed we did. Lakki Marwat has a population of 70,000 people, Bannu has 50,000 (the town, the district has like 1.3 million) - which village uncle do you expect to take a register there?

We have a border, the state took money to build a fence and man it - why is it failing to do that? There is a police force, we have multiple intelligence agencies - what are they doing? If there are people within the community facilitating terrorists - who's been prosecuted for it?

I can give you a list of lawyers, politicial workers, politicians and journalists who the intelligence agencies have "investigated" who are now all locked up or dead.

It's been over 20 years now, multiple governments and dictators have failed to address our most basic security needs.

It's not an assumption. You must be naive if you think it's an assumption. The comparison you made is flawed in too many ways to even be considered a point worth debating.

When you find local people disseminating propaganda, celebrating attacks at time, showing sympathy with militants, being indifferent, it's not an assumption.

The assumption here is you think people are just guessing and it isn't based on the actual first hand operational perspective of individuals posted there.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Thread 'A credible long-term solution to the Afghanistan problem'

Feb 26, 2026

Over the past couple months, the situation in the Af-Pak region has been significantly deterirorating in the background. This worsened when back-to-back daily suicide bombings started to become a norm in 2 out of 4 of Pakistan's provinces a few weeks ago. It has long been known and confirmed the Afghan regime has been facilitiating and expanding these militant groups to carry out terror for expansionist land ambition goals.

Since Pakistan's retaliatory airstrikes on 7 locations in 3 of Afghanistan's provinces, little has changed. Pakistan continues to experience suicide bombings and...

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This combined with a policy of extreme disproportionate deterrence after any attack is the way to go.

Ruthlessly shell the tribal zones known for Taliban recruitment and support, their economic and financial infrastructure as well as livelihoods (arable lands).

It is both a strategic and tactical solution. Deterrence plus encircling.

 

[hussain0216]

We don't strategize. Its our dilemma as a nation. I see people in this forum, brilliant tactically but ZERO know how about strategic implementations.

Its not about bad PR. Its about how we can secure our border. No amount of security can replace a friendly regime in kabul. You turn them into a sworn enemy then you have to commit 100s of billions of dollars at that border for indefinite amount of time. Also afghanistan is not now the collective power of taliban, its an entry towards Pakistan with 2700 km wide options and whole lot of sponsor lists brewing up in middle-east, israel and india.

A friendly regime, would give us access to central asia and above all we can free up security resources completely. We cannot get friendly regime ever, if we don't care about hitting "charsi houses". No faction will work for us.

Your right

But the Afghans are such a worthless harami kaum that they only understand violence and donkey behavior

Pakistan has tried for decades to establish some sort of peace
And between the donkeys in the tribal areas and the donkeys in Afghanistan it's always some sort of violence or fassad



As much as we want to take the logical path of peace so we can concentrate on real enemies like the indians

Knocking sense into the heads of Afghani morons is near enough impossible


They won't learn, so we are forced now to confront the Afghan enemy and our objective should be to constantly punish the Afghans through different means for the violent path they have chosen