Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RocketLaw]

 

[925boy]

Nobody cares what a Nigerian dude thinks about the loyalty of an actual Iranian. Iran is my country and it's not your country. As simple as that. I get to talk about Iran, you don't.

I mean, your warped understanding of Iran is as bad as a Nigerians understanding of Iran, and it's a free world and forum, so pls keep exposing your hidden anti patriotic agenda against Iran and I'll keep exposing you.

If your best argument against my points is "who cares what you have to say, you're nigerian",which is an ad hominem attack , then that confirms you have no counter good points(a shame on you that a Nigerian actually knows more about irans situation than a fake Iranian like you).

Also, pahlavists are also Iranian, but we know they aren't worth even the Internet they spew their propaganda through, so being Iranian doesn't have much respectable value if you basically hide your warped doomsday panic-my-country-while-its-at-war logic about the war against Iran by falsly claiming you care about iran- you dont. All your apocalyptic scenarios for Iran are lies and none have come true. That's how I know you are here with alterior motives.

 

[Samlee]

The OLD Shah was actually friendlier to Pakistan than the IR government was initially, at least partly due to American Cold War alignments. I suspect the entire calculus has changed now though, as Tehran has seen the duplicity of Delhi for itself.

Truth be told Compared to modern day Pahalvists the late shah actually had more backbone and self respect for his country

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

"defensive"

There is nothing defensive about it... in fact the collective has by and large dropped the charade... this is just another war of aggression. Iran is not in anyone's backyard... it is those who've devised these weapons of offense that keep churning these expeditionary forays long way away from their homes. As the colonial apartheid that calls it's stormtroopers zionist "defense" forces... a literal successor to zionist terror outfits.

There shouldn't be any ambiguity on whoever chooses to participate they are aggressors and would be dealt as such... would have been another thing had Iranian navy showed up in English channel or to open Chesapeake Bay.

 

[PK781]

News coming out of UK that approx 40 countries are preparing to take part in "defensive" missions to safeguard shipping in SoH.

So on one hand there is a ceasefire in place and talks ongoing to end the conflict, and on the other 40 countries (basically NATO) are preparing to join the conflict to help resume shipping.

Sounds like there is a lot going on behind the scenes. I just hope Iranians are using every second to sharpen their tools. And please for the love of humanity, respond in kind. Just remember: eye for an eye philosophy is permitted and legal in Islam.

Not sure but i thought Europe is about to run out of oil/fuel soon so them going to wage war is highly unlikely as Europeans are not used to fighting against tough opponents
It won’t end well for them if they do it

Uk PM barely holding onto his govt at the moment

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Ibbi32]

Sometimes I think the photos of him that we hold are even better than what Israel has..

I wont be surprised if we are heavily involved in decorating his ballroom for example. Trump was very interested in Pakistan for mining and we do have a large gem industry . If it turns out that FM has somehow contributed to his childish desires in order to get leverage and improve relations it will be a genius play

 

[Abdul q]

This guy deserves global recognition…

 

[BHAN85]

Norway and Spain expressed their opposition to the war against Iran. Spain even went further and refused the US military's planes to use Spanish soil for their operations against Iran. So Europe is not monolith, and there are countries who oppose to the Israeli-centric approach that dominates Washington and other places.

If Norway has a different and own approach, it would be for worst.

They must be very happy with high energy prices, main Norway economy income.

The longer Hormuz closed the better for Norway economy.

Dont be so naive. Europe is land conquered by USA since WWII, and currently highly dependent of USA energy after Russia break up. Spain main LNG supplier currently is USA.

See facts and ignore words BS.

 

[GoatsMilk]

This is why Israel is not deterred and eager to have another round with Iran. It is because Iran wastes its missiles on low value civilian targets rather than high value economic and military targets. Iran needs to not repeat the mistakes of the previous round and this time hit targets that actually hurt.

Do you really think Israeli government really cares about low rise buildings that may cost a few million dollars, or a power generator worth hundreds of millions?
Or a semiconductor manufacturing site that cost billions?

I suspect Iranians fear that if they target key infrastructure, then the isrealis will destroy the entire iranian infrastructure too.

While iran could do some minor damage, the isrealis with american air power will annihilate everything in iran. Nothing important would be left standing and whatever minor damage is done to isreal will be sustained by the USA.

 

[SolarWarden]

Iran has showed it hits back when it gets attacked they have a no fks given mentality so if the oil states did "secretly" attacked Iran, Iran was in on it or allowed it because all is quiet... so far.

 

[Professor Jiang]

I suspect Iranians fear that if they target key infrastructure, then the isrealis will destroy the entire iranian infrastructure too.

While iran could do some minor damage, the isrealis with american air power will annihilate everything in iran. Nothing important would be left standing and whatever minor damage is done to isreal will be sustained by the USA.

Let's play along with this scenario. Why haven't Israel or the United States annihilated Iran yet? Out of the goodness of their genocidal hearts? If it was this simple, why is Trump still asking politely if he can help administer funds from the Strait of Hormuz?

The Israelis and Americans aren't interested in deterrence - their game is compellence.

 

[Persian Gulf]

News coming out of UK that approx 40 countries are preparing to take part in "defensive" missions to safeguard shipping in SoH.

So on one hand there is a ceasefire in place and talks ongoing to end the conflict, and on the other 40 countries (basically NATO) are preparing to join the conflict to help resume shipping.

Sounds like there is a lot going on behind the scenes. I just hope Iranians are using every second to sharpen their tools. And please for the love of humanity, respond in kind. Just remember: eye for an eye philosophy is permitted and legal in Islam.

This is not true

The plan is for these counties to only do something AFTER a ceasefire is reached

 

[Meengla]

Iran doesn't have to defend any sites when US lacks the ammunition to destroy them In the first place.
US might have ammunition to bomb Iran for another 30 days max, and after that, US will not bomb Iran or any other country heavily for at least a year(which = accepting the war is lost). Reality is truth.

Even analysts who are anti war are saying that, yes, standoffish missiles maybe in low quantities but no shortage of relatively dumb bombs dropped from heavy bombers. Dropping them in some Dresden style probably will not capitulate Iran but will kill a lot of innocent people. A lot! Plus of course destroying much infra and buildings. Iranians are negotiating to avoid that; the leadership is responsible to its citizens despite all the propaganda against it.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Let's play along with this scenario. Why haven't Israel or the United States annihilated Iran yet? Out of the goodness of their genocidal hearts? If it was this simple, why is Trump still asking politely if he can help administer funds from the Strait of Hormuz?

The Israelis and Americans aren't interested in deterrence - their game is compellence.

same reason they allowed Assad to survive for 15 years, when they could have assassinated him just as easy as they assassinated so many Iranian leaders.

long drawn out process that incrementally destroys a nation. They want that nation balkanised, a quick regime change is not how you destroy a nation.

ideally the zionists want that country to descend into a civil war, they tried to use the kurds but Turkiye told trump if they attempt the same game in iran that they attempted in syria, they would intervene.

What would be ideal for them is for the regime to survive but for it lose control of the non-iranic, anti regime regions. Then to have those regions in constant conflict with the regime.