PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

royalharris said:
Can this even be called a test flight? It only proves that it can get airborne. It was just a very slow, low-speed, straight-line flight. They didn’t dare attempt any acceleration, maneuvering, or turns — probably because if they did, it would fall out of the sky.

At such a low takeoff speed, the tail fins are already wobbling nonstop. That proves the flight-control system is absolute garbage and not even worth mentioning.

This precisely proves the current reality in some countries: certain government actions are merely meant to fool the public, while the population’s overall quality and technical level are so low that they cannot detect anything wrong at all.

If the only goal is to prove that an aircraft can get off the ground, even ordinary Chinese civilians building homemade planes by hand or assembling makeshift planes can make them fly And they fly even better.

Every day, all they do is brag shamelessly. Of course, maybe it isn’t even bragging — perhaps a person’s cognitive ceiling is determined by their level of understanding and technological capability.
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Well, find a Turkish member and fight with him. I don't have time for your non-sense. Don't talk at their back "they brag and do this or do that" @MMM-E

and also your rant on KAAN. Well that was first prototype first flight 2 years ago, ofcourse first flight looks like that. You don't do extreme maneuvers at first test flight.

Also, I don't have time your utter illogical comments and pure paranoia. Only the biggest fool will accept a narrative on rumors. If I have to believe on rumors then why should I not believe on rumors that Pakistan helped China by sharing F-16, Tomahawks and likes. Atleast those rumors look more believable (Given the history of China at copying)

royalharris said:
The reason China is releasing this information through unofficial media is to leave Pakistan some room to save face.
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You are a dumb person. Its basics that if you cannot prove anything with hard evidence then you must say that there are "rumors" or "you think that maybe". But you don't f-king bother to do that. You put the accusations as a fact. Only a dumb person would do that.


@Musings why this behavior of accusing Pakistan is tolerated in PDF ?
 
mythbuster said:
China hasn't yet given anything to Pakistan that's worth stealing by " shameless countries " ....
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Pakistan Space Agency said:
If Turkiye needed any specific Chinese technology, they can buy it directly from China. They won't need to steel it via a third party.
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lightning f57 said:
You didnt post a single credible source and just showed Chinese social media.

You are delusional.
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Exactly! Only a total arse will believe on rumors and look at his audacity to accuse Pakistan. I didn't even bothered to click on spam links towards social media rumors. CH-4 drone given to Turkey lol? Turks have so many avenues to get hold of it with proper channel OR get hold of any other UAV of same class. and why on earth these idiots don't understand that you just can't copy a product. If its anybody's art its China's. Countries operating advance american UCAVs like MQ-9 can't just copy it and make their own copies.
 
PakAl said:
I don't see any reason China would increase it to 200 a year, like you mentioned 100 is already high. China has around 2000 4th 4.5th 4.5+ 5th generation planes. J35s will soon be in full production aswell.
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If Lockheed make 130 F-35 every year, it's because half of them goes to export to friendly countries and only 60-70 get inducted in USA airforce/navy. China with even 100 per year will be able to induct more than what USA does. Also, keep in mind that USA is only producing F-35 (not F22) but China is making 100 J-20 as well as 30-40 J-35 this year, which will also reach 100 J-35 next year. So 200 (J-20 and J-35) per year for China in comparison to 60-70 F-35 per year for USA
 
r3alist said:
If there is a next time round I would not expect only air battles, we could see the army in action or the navy engaged sooner, and then drones and missiles
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My gut feelings is robotic non-contact warfare would be initiated inside IIOK, coupled with physical troops movement to secure the water resources at a lightning speed. If thousands of bunkers are taken out along with AD, artillery, C4I etc. inside IIOK, and Bharati troops movement is restricted such an outcome is quite plausible. Not to mention the air dominance to put the very capital New Delhi under pressure...
 
royalharris said:
“You need to understand this clearly: Pakistan is seeking to import the J-35 from China.

China’s export of the J-35 to Pakistan is conditional on Pakistan ensuring proper technical confidentiality and not leaking the technology to any third country.

“Turkish engineers stole the JF-17 Block III radar source code and flight-control system at Pakistan’s Kamra factory. China subsequently halted engine supplies and suspended negotiations on J-35 exports.”
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LOl, If that your justifications, No country on earth are able to export their jets because fear of sabotage and espionage by other country lol and you should send men to Pakistan with J-35 to protect its technology, just like US doing same thing with F-16 in Pakistan

And remember J-35 is export oriented jet from the beginning by Chinese govt, PAF's J-35 will be using PAF specified AESA/avionics and other electronics that cleared for export by PLA, not PLAAF or PLAN version that will use classified avionics for PLAN/PLAAF use


your last baseless accusations and blaming has no solid evidences/proofs and quite ridiculous and funny or you're able to give any solid evidence that Turkish stole Radar source code and fly-by- wire system with some reliable/respectable sources?
 
2 Years since thread started and no planes delivered yet
Quite disappointing turn around

Specially considering it does not do vertical take off it is a conventional flight capable plane, requiring runway and take off.
 
Pakistan Space Agency said:
The Great Pakistani Predictors
UPDATED: 09/05/2026

Asset​
Predictor​
Arrival Date​
Predicted​
Outcome
J-35flyingorca6 September 202518 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025Wrong again
J-35Yasser7623 May 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35MastanKhan31 July 202608 July 2024TBC
J-35flyingorca31 July 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35AeronautIR14 August 202601 August 2025TBC
J-35Aziqbal14 August 202627 April 2026TBC
J-35hyperman31 August 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 November 202615 August 2026TBC
J-35studsmart31 December 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 December 202615 January 2026TBC
J-35RocketLaw31 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35TopGun78631 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35Starlord23 March 202727 April 2026TBC
J-35Salza23 March 202702 May 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 March 202707 May 2026TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202715 January 2026TBC
J-35That_Guy31 December 202728 April 2026TBC
J-35Tariq Habibi Afridi14 August 202816 January 2026TBC
J-35falcon3420 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35lightening f5730 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 August 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 202808 July 2024TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35Olympus8131 December 202827 April 2026TBC
J-35Corax01 February 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35_NOBODY_23 March 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35kimjongun01 January 203027 April 2026TBC
J-35Princeps05 March 203014 January 2025TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 203008 July 2024TBC
J-35Ibbi3230 September 203127 April 2026TBC
J-35maxpane31 January 203514 January 2026TBC
J-35m52k8531 December 203509 May 2026TBC

Anyone else wants to join this list, let me know.

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Add me please. 14 August 2031
 
AZADPAKISTAN2009 said:
2 Years since thread started and no planes delivered yet
Quite disappointing turn around

Specially considering it does not do vertical take off it is a conventional flight capable plane, requiring runway and take off.
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No, just a realistic fact and everyone with a realistic sense of „how such things happen“ was aware of this fact!

As such the disappointment is only due to unrealistic hopes being spread!

Anyone who, as a three-year-old expects, as soon as he enters a toy store, to receive the latest toy immediately and as a gift from dad and mom is also disappointed, but only because he does not realise that it is unrealistic to always get everything immediately!
 
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AZADPAKISTAN2009 said:
2 Years since thread started and no planes delivered yet
Quite disappointing turn around

Specially considering it does not do vertical take off it is a conventional flight capable plane, requiring runway and take off.
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Disappointing for who?

Nobody other than those who were being delusional expected anything.
 
The Great Pakistani Predictors
UPDATED: 15/05/2026

Asset​
Predictor​
Arrival Date​
Predicted​
Outcome
J-35flyingorca6 September 202518 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025Wrong again
J-35Yasser7623 May 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35MastanKhan31 July 202608 July 2024TBC
J-35flyingorca31 July 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35AeronautIR14 August 202601 August 2025TBC
J-35Aziqbal14 August 202627 April 2026TBC
J-35Ali_Baba14 August 202609 May 2026TBC
J-35Jinn Baba14 August 202609 May 2026TBC
J-35hyperman31 August 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 November 202615 August 2026TBC
J-35studsmart31 December 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 December 202615 January 2026TBC
J-35RocketLaw31 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35TopGun78631 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35Starlord23 March 202727 April 2026TBC
J-35Salza23 March 202702 May 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 March 202707 May 2026TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202715 January 2026TBC
J-35That_Guy31 December 202728 April 2026TBC
J-35Tariq Habibi Afridi14 August 202816 January 2026TBC
J-35falcon3420 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35lightening f5730 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 August 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 202808 July 2024TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35Olympus8131 December 202827 April 2026TBC
J-35Corax01 February 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35_NOBODY_23 March 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35kimjongun01 January 203027 April 2026TBC
J-35Princeps05 March 203014 January 2025TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 203008 July 2024TBC
J-35TF814 August 203115 May 2026TBC
J-35Ibbi3230 September 203127 April 2026TBC
J-35maxpane31 January 203514 January 2026TBC
J-35m52k8531 December 203509 May 2026TBC

Anyone else wants to join this list, let me know.

This is just for fun.
 
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Pakistan Space Agency said:
The Great Pakistani Predictors
UPDATED: 15/05/2026

Asset​
Predictor​
Arrival Date​
Predicted​
Outcome
J-35flyingorca6 September 202518 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025Wrong again
J-35Yasser7623 May 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35MastanKhan31 July 202608 July 2024TBC
J-35flyingorca31 July 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35AeronautIR14 August 202601 August 2025TBC
J-35Aziqbal14 August 202627 April 2026TBC
J-35Ali_Baba14 August 202609 May 2026TBC
J-35Jinn Baba14 August 202609 May 2026TBC
J-35hyperman31 August 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 November 202615 August 2026TBC
J-35studsmart31 December 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 December 202615 January 2026TBC
J-35RocketLaw31 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35TopGun78631 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35Starlord23 March 202727 April 2026TBC
J-35Salza23 March 202702 May 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 March 202707 May 2026TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202715 January 2026TBC
J-35That_Guy31 December 202728 April 2026TBC
J-35Tariq Habibi Afridi14 August 202816 January 2026TBC
J-35falcon3420 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35lightening f5730 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 August 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 202808 July 2024TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35Olympus8131 December 202827 April 2026TBC
J-35Corax01 February 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35_NOBODY_23 March 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35kimjongun01 January 203027 April 2026TBC
J-35Princeps05 March 203014 January 2025TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 203008 July 2024TBC
J-35TF814 August 203115 May 2026TBC
J-35Ibbi3230 September 203127 April 2026TBC
J-35maxpane31 January 203514 January 2026TBC
J-35m52k8531 December 203509 May 2026TBC

Anyone else wants to join this list, let me know.

This is just for fun.
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Arrive in Pakistan before December 31 2028. Officially appear on March 23, 2029.
 
Pakistan Space Agency said:
The Great Pakistani Predictors
UPDATED: 15/05/2026

Asset​
Predictor​
Arrival Date​
Predicted​
Outcome
J-35flyingorca6 September 202518 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 December 202517 August 2025Got it Wrong
J-35Zarvan31 March 202617 August 2025Wrong again
J-35Yasser7623 May 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35Zarvan30 June 202617 August 2025TBC
J-35MastanKhan31 July 202608 July 2024TBC
J-35flyingorca31 July 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35AeronautIR14 August 202601 August 2025TBC
J-35Aziqbal14 August 202627 April 2026TBC
J-35Ali_Baba14 August 202609 May 2026TBC
J-35Jinn Baba14 August 202609 May 2026TBC
J-35hyperman31 August 202601 May 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 November 202615 August 2026TBC
J-35studsmart31 December 202614 January 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 December 202615 January 2026TBC
J-35RocketLaw31 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35TopGun78631 December 202616 January 2026TBC
J-35Starlord23 March 202727 April 2026TBC
J-35Salza23 March 202702 May 2026TBC
J-35NA7131 March 202707 May 2026TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202715 January 2026TBC
J-35That_Guy31 December 202728 April 2026TBC
J-35Tariq Habibi Afridi14 August 202816 January 2026TBC
J-35falcon3420 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35lightening f5730 August 202814 January 2026TBC
J-35hasssanali899807 August 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 202808 July 2024TBC
J-35Pakistanithinktank31 December 202815 January 2026TBC
J-35Olympus8131 December 202827 April 2026TBC
J-35Corax01 February 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35_NOBODY_23 March 202928 April 2026TBC
J-35kimjongun01 January 203027 April 2026TBC
J-35Princeps05 March 203014 January 2025TBC
J-35SiliconBit (silicon0000)31 December 203008 July 2024TBC
J-35TF814 August 203115 May 2026TBC
J-35Ibbi3230 September 203127 April 2026TBC
J-35maxpane31 January 203514 January 2026TBC
J-35m52k8531 December 203509 May 2026TBC

Anyone else wants to join this list, let me know.

This is just for fun.
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u again forgot the add my name on this list.. first to say in jan 2024 that by the end of dec 2026 pakistan will induct j35 back then i said j31/j35
 
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