PAF J-10CE News Updates and Discussions part ll

[RocketLaw]

Feel free to put this user - NGAD whatever strange name to IGNORE LIST or PERMANENT BAN for attacking every other users without understanding clearly.

@Fatman17 @RescueRanger @Musings

 

[royalharris]

In May, the Serbian president visited China hoping to acquire China’s advanced fighter jets. Was it the J-10 or the J-35? Who will receive the J-35 first, Pakistan or Serbia?
wish it is Pakistan

 

[TopGun786]

SCMP is one of the most crap/junk source on chinses military defense news lol

Again sane arrogant retard behavior. I hate it when you act like Indian trolls. Grow up.
And I can ask you same thing.... What is your evidence SCMP is crap/junk source?
Regarding fanboy thing I think I must show you the mirror. Just look at your ID name. That shows a lot who is "fanboy".
Also I must remind you that you are same person which had previously two IDs in this forum.
Last thing..... I will advise you as a brother.... Calm down and stop banging your head to every other wall you see on your way.
Now back to the topic.

 

[EgoKaempfer]

The German "Nachrichtenagentur" Focus.de has apparently befallen to the Chinese 5th gen. information warfare and reports claiming: "…the skills of the pilots or the weapons used could also have contributed to the J-10CE winning."

We shall all wait for the Deutsche Luftwaffe to sue these buggers of Focus.de in coming days if not hours.
In case no legal action is taken, we shall assume that the entire Luftwaffe might have been infiltrated by sino-pak spies.

Disclaimer: the views expressed above can be interpreted sarcastically, hence I don’t take responsibility for any anxiety or insomnia suffered by reading this.

 

[Afif]

I forgot if it was @side-winder or @AeronautIR who clarified the context of this Typhoon Vs J10CE thing in Qatari exercise. I can't find that post. But the bottom line is, this is not what people thinking it is.

 

[PakAl]

ok, how about you explain it to me then.

Please provide me the data/sources you refer to when asserting the claim that the J-10C uses GaN based AESA, while also being superior in range to other european fighters, and European fighters being unable to detect it?

i am very excited to hear about this

Thanks

Bro he didn't say Europeans fighters cannot detect J10CEs, what he's trying to say is J10 radar is longer so if j10 stays out of range of European planes then it won't be detected but J10 can detect them since it has longer range. But ofcourse real life situation can be completely different.

Rafale and Typhoon are cutting edge planes and so is J10CE.

 

[studsmart]

I think Pakistan is going to get more J10C and J35A. I am just waiting for that to happen. PAF of 2027 will also have HQ19 as well as some KJ500A. That is my thought.

 

[Bentley777]

Just buy 4 5 more squadrons of j10c and retire f7 pgs in next 4 years. Keep chunking 1 and 2 sqs of block 3 as well from kamra. Then move to j35.

 

[KingQamaR]

Unfortunately lots of western specialists used too liked to say PAFs J10c was a non combat-proven aircraft, spreading purposely doubts to induce the world to buy NATO fighter jets. Claiming Rafale was more advanced we now know it’s no longer a secret that the Rafael jet use Gallium Arsenide radars, sensors and data link that are at least a generation gap. French Gallium arsenide range is much less than Chinese J-10C Gallium Nitride range up to 200kms it’s PL-15 is much ranger than Rafale. The air combat proved this performance difference. How west claim their jets example Rafale Typhoon are more advanced than j10C. I don’t know if our J10C bird is a match against the US latest viper F16V especially in the weapons Load….

 

[royalharris]

In today’s West, only the United States remains truly powerful. Europe, apart from the U.S., no longer has any real technological advantage. All it has left is rhetoric, using self-promotion and exaggeration to exploit uninformed countries and people.

Neither China nor the United States truly values Europe. They merely treat Europe as a disposable bargaining chip that can be thrown away at any time.
Europe is like a lone wolf that has lost its claws and teeth, snarling fiercely about taking revenge on the United States, China, and Russia. But all you see and hear is barking, not action.
And from time to time, it fabricates fake news, hoping to stir up conflicts among China, the United States, and Russia in order to reduce pressure on itself.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Bro you need to cut this crap...You are coming across as rude and obnoxious and ruining one of the threads I love to visit. Please put your ego in the nearest garbage bin and relax.

So, you fond with living in your utopia and fairytales and not in facts?

 

[Dalit]

J-10CE ‘9-0’ Shockwave: Did Pakistan’s Chinese Fighter Humiliate Eurofighter Typhoon—or Trigger a Global Airpower Debate?​

Unverified claims from the Pakistan-Qatar Zilzal-II exercise have reignited global scrutiny over Chinese fighter capabilities, Eurofighter competitiveness, and the future balance of airpower across the Middle East and Indo-Pacific.​

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After the shooting down of Rafale fighters this doesn't sound far fetched at all.

 

[RAMPAGE]

I really wish we had an indigenous AWACS program. Knowledgeable members here agree we have the capability. We may even be in a good position to export a few given our recent success deploying these. Qatar has none.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Rafale is more intended for strike and CAS role , it has minimal kinematic compare to typhoon in air superiority role but typhoon is a different story,, typhoon main mission is air superiority and typhoon's specifications is inspired by F-15, so I highly doubt that J-10C has kill 9-0 against one of the best jet in the world

A member has already explained it to you.

The current air combat mode is beyond-visual-range confrontation, not the close-range dogfights seen in movies.

The detection range of the J-10C radar and the missile range both exceed those of the Typhoon fighter. The Pakistan Air Force is one of the best militaries in the world.

One person uses a rifle, and the other is skilled with a sniper rifle. The outcome of the confrontation is very obvious. For the person using the rifle, he first needs to locate the sniper and then enter the rifle's range. This process is enough for the sniper to kill the rifleman multiple times.

 

[ThoroughPro]

meaningless "news" without knowing the ROE...

ROE's would be the same for both sides though