Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

The Sundance Kid said:
He’s proven to be nothing more than average numerous times.

Imran Khan was right about him.
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Competency of CDF can be questioned on his performance, but I'd not care about the word of someone who came up with the genius idea of giving extension to General Bajwa. All this mess is his making.
 
Xestan said:
If history tells us anything, they'll wait till one of these drones slam into a JF-17 at Peshawar AB.
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Afghanistan must be subdued at this point. Israel and India have taken over Kabul. Pakistan must weaken the Taliban to the point where they become insignificant. The military component is just one aspect. You also need targeted assassinations of high ranking Talibs. This must be done openly and transparently.

The Taliban have made their intentions crystal clear. They are not going to budge.
 
The Sundance Kid said:
Don’t take it there dawg. You and I both know this didn’t start in 2021.

Nobody asked for anyone to play saviour. In any merit based institution when you underperform consistently for half a decade - you bow out, resign and let someone else more competent and capable take over.
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Why are you speaking on my behalf ? It all ended in 2017, before the laadla project started and the next big inflow of terror attacks was in 2021 with 403 attacks and a 43% increase form 2020. Go check and come back if you can prove me wrong.

If you still insist, read this and calm down:

PIPS | Pakistan Security Report 2021

www.pakpips.com www.pakpips.com
.. and then go and check Report form institute of strategic studies to get the exact numbers.

A certain crowd has severe selective dementia when it comes to everything that happened between 2018 and 2022. Shall I bring up the worst ever corruption Index performance in that same era too (documented figures, not social Media pipedreams), if you are gonna start diverting to that topic ?

Anyway, what is being done now is far better than what as being done back then and Most Pakistanis support it. You can keep screaming about it as much as you wanna.
 
Dalit said:
That is all true, but that will be part of Sindoor 2.0. Right now, the focus should be to hurt the Taliban, TTA, TTP and the likes. The immediate focus should be to stabilise Afghanistan and rid this country from anti-Pakistan elements including the Taliban. When you target the TTP, TTA and Taliban you are essentially going after India. There is a reason why the Indians cry every time Pakistan launches an attack against these groups within Afghanistan. India shamelessly defends the Taliban. It is doing so because the Taliban are an Indian proxy.
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Taliban are sold to whoever offers the most money. They are neither loyal to India nor to Pakistan. None of their neighbours want them and as for India's "support" .. India should just look at Pakistan and realize what that support will eventually get them too. They have always been a mercenary army of Drug Lords looking to gain the most benefits and right now that is India coz their coffers are full and they can throw money at Taliban.

All the talk of Pashtun nationalism is also hogwash, considering their conduct in the last 30 years. They cannot be throw out because some other money grabbing warlords will take over. The best way is to gather some financial support and buy them out, maybe with support of Iran if things improve at that side. Or maybe finance the other side in Afghanistan to throw them out. Not an ideal way, but then bombings are not a permanent solution in today's world, either. One only has to look at Russia, who with all its power, cannot take out Ukraine in the last 4 years and have only been dragged further into Ukraine.

The bigger core issue is all the illegal Afghans. No matter what anyone says, they should be thrown out, just as every other country in the world throws illegals outs. Anyone against this idea knows they are doing it for political reasons at the cost of Pakistan's well being. That alone will sort out almost all of the problem
 
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Never trust those ruskie snakes. Them and Indian haramis have always been in the bed.
Hope PAF Air intel is getting full hold of all the info regarding the SHORAD/MANPAD threat, if and when it emerges on the western border.

SSW/SSG should then be employed surgically together with the CAS to liquidate any such threat to our air ops. As I have been saying, Afg should become and remain our Lebanon, a fractured, civil war infested hell hole that could be taken care of whenever the need arises.
 
Falgrine said:
Never trust those ruskie snakes. Them and Indian haramis have always been in the bed.
Hope PAF Air intel is getting full hold of all the info regarding the SHORAD/MANPAD threat, if and when it emerges on the western border.

SSW/SSG should then be employed surgically together with the CAS to liquidate any such threat to our air ops. As I have been saying, Afg should become and remain our Lebanon, a fractured, civil war infested hell hole that could be taken care of whenever the need arises.
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What Pakistan should do is be proactive rather than reactive. So far, all Pakistan has done is be reactive. Only when Pakistan becomes proactive and starts eliminating threats before they become threats will you see a major shift in its behavior. In parallel, Pakistan should encourage remaining rathoritn alliance and fringe Pashtun [non-Taliban] groups to align to weaken Taliban control over Kabul. These two should be done in parallel. While we are doing this, put the Taliban government under tremendous pressure from its neighbors, including Iran, China, and Russia. They should be neutralized prior to taking on India on the water issue head-on
 
Dalit said:
That is all true, but that will be part of Sindoor 2.0. Right now, the focus should be to hurt the Taliban, TTA, TTP and the likes. The immediate focus should be to stabilise Afghanistan and rid this country from anti-Pakistan elements including the Taliban. When you target the TTP, TTA and Taliban you are essentially going after India. There is a reason why the Indians cry every time Pakistan launches an attack against these groups within Afghanistan. India shamelessly defends the Taliban. It is doing so because the Taliban are an Indian proxy.
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No matter how often we go after Taliban, they breed like dogs and they are disposable for $ which is what India provides. The real issue is the funding and the support. Unless you hurt the main source of evil, this will never stop even if we bomb Taliban every week because another Taliban will turn up to blow himself up for some Indian $
 
How do afghandus go from jalalabad to KP under burqa cover assisted by local accomplices, armed and get to Karachi where they are assisted by more local accomplices and intelligence agencies have no idea?
 
pakistanitarzan said:
No matter how often we go after Taliban, they breed like dogs and they are disposable for $ which is what India provides. The real issue is the funding and the support. Unless you hurt the main source of evil, this will never stop even if we bomb Taliban every week because another Taliban will turn up to blow himself up for some Indian $
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Pakistan needs a strong buffer zone along the Afghan border. With repatriation already underway, the world and the Taliban now fully realises that Pakistan is committed to returning every Afghan national. Once this buffer zone is secured, the Taliban will understand that the situation has fundamentally changed. Furthermore, the border should remain closed for trade.
 
The Taliban only know two things, kill or get killed. Thats their ultimate life purpose. We know India is sponsoring and supporting the Taliban. This cycle will never end unless we make it unaffordable for India to support these proxies financially and morally. Once we make Indians question their choices then the airstrikes in Afghanistan will have more profound effect. For every drone attack in Pakistan, we need to hit hard accross the loc and cancell all back channel talks with them. My dear Pakistanis, until it comes down to the life of Indian military personnel, this will never end because there is nothing stopping them from continuing to support it until their agenda is met. For them Taliban is disposable, it doesnt matter how many we kill as long as the one we kill is replaced by another one.
 
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