Israel is itching to go to war with Turkiye and Egypt

[Nimble]

Israel on its own is not a regional power. Its effectively an American AC pretending to be a country. Israel is a nothing burger without Americans

Please do some research on Isreal... homemade state of an art weapons... iron dome, Arrow, David Sling, Awacs, energy weapons, ballistic and cruise missiles, drones, radars and many other types of weapons systems....
They're a nuclear triad power....

Please do some research on the agricultural revolution that nation brought into that desert and today it's a university for entire agricultural world.... research something on Isreal's dairy sector and medical sector....

And all they have achieved being one among the smallest country of the world just with a landmass of 22000 Sq kms.... just 3 times the size of Indian state sikkim.... imagine if they had a landmass as big as Pakistan, Egypt, Turkiye, Iran or Saudi Arabia....

American support is there no doubt but above factors put Israel definitely in the league of a regional power and saying it is nothing without America is just a pure hatred and a thinking to feel good....

Today every country by the hook or crook is nothing without each other..... if China, Saudi Arabia, IMF decides to stop any monatery and any single kind of cooperation with Pakistan for next 2 decades will you say Pakistan is nothing without these countries.... honestly think and answer....

 

[GatlingGunZ]

only in your dreams maybe

Turkish K-2 kamikaze Drone carry 2 AZAK-E5 munitions to destroy IRON BEAM
400 K-2 kamikaze Drones will carry 800 AZAK-E5 munitions

900 km jet powered SUPER LIGHTNING kamikaze Drone with speed of mach 0,9

Oh.. only 400.
I see, You dont make 150,000 of these. These are specialised low production drones. They will be shot down by proper missile based Air defence before it reaches near any DEW battery to drop payload .

also , There are 1000 km STM KUZGUN kamikaze Drone similar to Iranian one

produce tens of thousands of long range kamikaze Drones like SIMSEK-K , AZAB , KARGI , KZ-350 , KEMANKES-2 per year

THIS>> slow , with zero standoff capability. Kuzgun category drones (which are produced in large quantity) will be targeted by DEW. That's how layered AD works.

 

[MMM-E]

There are only 2 Systems in NATO ( American and Turkish )


USA : MQ-9 Seaguardian (Seaspray 7500E V2 Radar with range of 320 nm - 592 km)

Turkiye : AKINCI UCAV ( FULMAR-500 AESA Radar with range of 320 nm- 592 km



FULMAR-500A AESA Radar can detect Air Defense Systems from very long distance and to fire 500+ km 300-ER air launched Ballistic Missile ( with TV camera seeker ) to hit AD Systems like S300/S400 , DAVID's SLING , BARAK-MX , PATRIOT , SAMP-T , HQ-9



For NATO as well, this strike capability with unmanned systems exists only in Turkiye


IRON DOME can not intercept 300-ER air launched Ballistic Missile

BARAK-MX and DAVID's SLING AD Systems will try to intercept 300-ER Ballistic Missiles .. but Türkiye has a cost advantage

Missile Cost
Turkish 300-ER : approximately $250.000
BARAK MX : $550.000
DAVID's SLING : $1 million

Good luck to enemy Air Defense Systems ... They will need it

 

[MMM-E]

Oh.. only 400.
I see, You dont make 150,000 of these. These are specialised low production drones.

Only 400 K-2 for a attack package
400 K-2 kamikaze Drones will carry 800 AZAK-E5 munitions

The attack will consist of 2,000 MOSQUITO , MIZRAK , K-2 kamikaze drones in packages

even 15.000 long range kamikaze drones would cripple Israel.

 

[MMM-E]

They will be shot down by proper missile based Air defence before it reaches near any DEW battery to drop payload .

It is being marketed entirely based on laboratory tests and controlled field trials

No any real combat experience against swarm attacks

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Do you know what about line of sight limit ?

The kamikaze drones like Baykar's Mosquito approach the target from an altitude of 10 meters ..... Laser weapons can not curve in the air like missiles. they must see the target directly.


2,000 drones simultaneously dive into the target area from different directions within seconds. It takes seconds for a laser unit to mechanically rotate, lock onto, and maintain focus. By this time, hundreds of drones will have already infiltrated the defense line.

also the smoke generated by the first 50 drones if destroyed in mid air would create perfect armor for the 1950 drones that follow. The laser cannot penetrate the smoke and would be blinded.


it's so difficult for Israel to cope with Turkish Defense Industry
Turkiye is not an Arab Country which produce almost nothing

 

[Nimble]

Only 400 K-2 for a attack package
400 K-2 kamikaze Drones will carry 800 AZAK-E5 munitions

The attack will consist of 2,000 MOSQUITO , MIZRAK , K-2 kamikaze drones in packages

even 15.000 long range kamikaze drones would cripple Israel.

You only draw one sided scenario like only Turkiye attacking Israel and Israel is just trying to defend....

Main threat and as per the title of this thread is Israel attacking Turkiye.... so you have to worry more about Israel attacking with 100s of drones like harpy, herop, heron.... 100s of missiles like rampage, Lora, golden horizon, ice breaker, munitions like spice series, gbu series bombs....

And these attacks first will be directed towards your drones, missiles building factories and storage facilities, your naval bases, air bases everywhere.... we have seen to what scale Israel is capable to make an attack alone without USA.... you try to play war scenario like some video game....

 

[Night Memory]

Please do some research on Isreal... homemade state of an art weapons... iron dome, Arrow, David Sling, Awacs, energy weapons, ballistic and cruise missiles, drones, radars and many other types of weapons systems....
They're a nuclear triad power....

Please do some research on the agricultural revolution that nation brought into that desert and today it's a university for entire agricultural world.... research something on Isreal's dairy sector and medical sector....

And all they have achieved being one among the smallest country of the world just with a landmass of 22000 Sq kms.... just 3 times the size of Indian state sikkim.... imagine if they had a landmass as big as Pakistan, Egypt, Turkiye, Iran or Saudi Arabia....

American support is there no doubt but above factors put Israel definitely in the league of a regional power and saying it is nothing without America is just a pure hatred and a thinking to feel good....

Today every country by the hook or crook is nothing without each other..... if China, Saudi Arabia, IMF decides to stop any monatery and any single kind of cooperation with Pakistan for next 2 decades will you say Pakistan is nothing without these countries.... honestly think and answer....

I think Pakistan and rest of the countries could do such “miracles” as well if they were being funded by american tax dollars and grants. Who tf are you kidding? All your defence budget is funded by america. Your biggest expense. Americans dont have any public healthcare while you guys get free healthcare in Israel?

 

[Night Memory]

You only draw one sided scenario like only Turkiye attacking Israel and Israel is just trying to defend....

Main threat and as per the title of this thread is Israel attacking Turkiye.... so you have to worry more about Israel attacking with 100s of drones like harpy, herop, heron.... 100s of missiles like rampage, Lora, golden horizon, ice breaker, munitions like spice series, gbu series bombs....

And these attacks first will be directed towards your drones, missiles building factories and storage facilities, your naval bases, air bases everywhere.... we have seen to what scale Israel is capable to make an attack alone without USA.... you try to play war scenario like some video game....

Turkey is 10x if not more capable and advanced than Iran. I can only laugh at the prospect of Israel daring to attack on Turkey. Get ready to get blasted to kingdom come if you are that foolish.

 

[MMM-E]

You only draw one sided scenario like only Turkiye attacking Israel and Israel is just trying to defend....

All of you always draw one sided scenario like only Israel attack on Turkiye

and now I am showing Turkish military capabilities for attack scenarios

Main threat and as per the title of this thread is Israel attacking Turkiye.... so you have to worry more about Israel attacking with 100s of drones like harpy, herop, heron.... 100s of missiles like rampage, Lora, golden horizon, ice breaker, munitions like spice series, gbu series bombs....

Turkiye has developed its own Air Defense Systems to intercept most of them

-- KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with air burst ammunition
-- SAHIN 40 mm AD System with air burst ammunition
-- TOLGA 20 mm CIWS
-- SUNGUR MANPADS and mobile Air Defense System
-- GURZ hybrid Air Defense System
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
-- GOKDEMIR medium altitude Air Defense System
-- SIPER high altitude altitude Air Defense System

Only USA , Turkiye and France in NATO

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And Turkiye has better strike capability with more options

Long range kamikaze Drones = MOSQUITO , MIZRAK , KUZGUN , K-2 , KEMANKES-2 , KARGI , SIMSEK-K , SUPER LIGHTNING

Ballistic Missiles : BORA , TAYFUN Block2 , TAYFUN Block4 , CENK , 300-ER , IHA-230

Cruise Missiles : SOM , ATMACA-UM , CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ and soon GEZGIN

 

[Night Memory]

Turkey has to stay in NATO to protect itself from NATO. No country can be expelled from NATO, but everyone can resign at the same time and form a new alliance to solve this problem. I’d like to remind you that we were removed from the F-35 project in this exact manner.
Israel cannot attack Turkey and Egypt without first dealing with Iran. Therefore, we are constantly pressuring Trump for a peace agreement. It is highly crucial for Iran to survive

Well said, because after Turkiye, it will be Pakistan. israel’s final frontier.

 

[Nimble]

I think Pakistan and rest of the countries could do such “miracles” as well if they were being funded by american tax dollars and grants. Who tf are you kidding? All your defence budget is funded by america. Your biggest expense. Americans dont have any public healthcare while you guys get free healthcare in Israel?

Could do this could do that.... have no meaning....

Fact is Israeli Jews had a brains that they utilized properly to infiltrate deep inside American system and became undeclared emperors of America.... here also we have to appreciate Israel and his capacity to bring such miracles into a reality.... by hook or by crook it's Israeli Jews made world superpower dancing on it's tunes..... who has stopped you from doing it? Try your luck instead of crying COULD, IF and THEN.....

 

[MMM-E]

And these attacks first will be directed towards your drones, missiles building factories and storage facilities, your naval bases, air bases everywhere.... we have seen to what scale Israel is capable to make an attack alone without USA.... you try to play war scenario like some video game....

And Turkish Armed Forces will sleep
what a fanboy group from India who try to play war scenario like some video game


Turkish Armed Forces sees all military activities in the region including inside Israel

TURAF shot down Russian Fighter Jet in 7 seconds ... Turkiye has great NATO technologies mixed with indigenous capabilities


and tiny Israel has no strategic debt for self defense
just 500 km from Turkiye ... this time USA,The UK,France will not protect Israel

Military bases in Türkiye are located 1000-1200-1300 km away from Israel and are scattered throughout the country.

 

[Lulldapull]

only in your dreams maybe

Turkish K-2 kamikaze Drone carry 2 AZAK-E5 munitions to destroy IRON BEAM
400 K-2 kamikaze Drones will carry 800 AZAK-E5 munitions
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Turkish concept is different

The world's new generation attack paradigm
(Attack packages consisting of 2,000 kamikaze Drones) not 200

“Imagine a package of 1,000 Mosquito kamikaze drones at the front. Behind that, imagine 600 Mızrak Kamikaze drones. And at the very back, we're talking about an attack package of 400 K2 kamikaze drones. In a sense, we are defining the world's new generation attack paradigm.”

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also , There are 1000 km STM KUZGUN kamikaze Drone similar to Iranian one
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900 km jet powered SUPER LIGHTNING kamikaze Drone with speed of mach 0,9
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Also there are many Turkish Defense companies to produce tens of thousands of long range kamikaze Drones like SIMSEK-K , AZAB , KARGI , KZ-350 , KEMANKES-2 per year

Israel can never withstand this attack ... Israeli Defense Systems will be destroyed or Israel's air defense missiles will run out.

Man that slung load underneath that bigger drone that looks like the X-58 Valkyrie looks very promising! Its a good effort by Turkey. I bet it will be successful just by looking at it.

 

[MMM-E]

Man that slung load underneath that bigger drone that looks like the X-58 Valkyrie looks very promising! Its a good effort by Turkey. I bet it will be successful just by looking at it.

Its jet powered SUPER LIGHTNING kamikaze Drone provides strong strategic attack capability with its confirmed 900 km operational range, making it highly cost-effective for targeting Radars, Air Defense Systems for SEAD/DEAD missions

Range : 900 km
Speed : mach 0,9
Warhead : 35-50 kg
stealth design

• Kamikaze/Direct Attack: E/O Camera for precision hits
• Electronic Attack/Jammer: Blinds or disrupts AD Radars
• Decoy Mode: High RCS enhancers to mimic Fighters (F-16, F-35, KAAN), forcing AD systems to activate and waste missiles.

Its already in service and in mass production



also ground launched version SIMSEK-K with range of 500 km

 

[mythbuster]

Turkey is 10x if not more capable and advanced than Iran. I can only laugh at the prospect of Israel daring to attack on Turkey. Get ready to get blasted to kingdom come if you are that foolish.

Sensible talk is boring and senseless talk is entertaining... people need entertainment... Turkey and Pakistan are the 2 Muslim countries that Israel will never dare to go to war with.