Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

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People just ignore all the evidence, refuse to connect the dots, live in a stagnant view of geopolitics and come up with strange predictions.

My point before even this war began: This is a personal war. This is not a well thought out plan. It was the personality of Trump, due to a combination of factors in his personality, which has led to this war. People may look up a recent Hillary Clinton video where she is talking about how Netanyahu tried similar attempts to start full fledged war on Iran while she was in the US administration. Every American President had refused Netanyahu, and for good reasons, until Trump 2 Presidency. Let's not forget the personality factor: Years of Obama admin hard work on JCPOA was undone in a short time by Trump. Do people still think there are rational, cold calculated people sitting as the POTUS? No, I don't think so.

This was never America's war to begin with. And those here with predictions of another attack on Iran need to remember the context of this war. As I said, if today Trump has a heart attack and Vance becomes the POTUS, you will almost certainly see a draw down of American forces and a wrap up of this war.

So, do you consider still the possibility of reigniting the war?.

I was reluctant, but day after day seems that because US cannot drag their desired "modifications" over the MOU, war Will reignite.

About what you write, I also think that It was a personal war... From Netanyahu. Trump is an opportunist, like a vulture, he believed Islamic Republic was in decomposition and tried to make a fast war like he tried before on Venezuela and try in Cuba.

But he failed. And if he starts again he will fail again.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

 

[Flotilla]

What I find ridiculous is how could the US choose Israel over Iran?

How?

@AZ_HighCountry @Davey Crockett

This has gotta go down as the worst foreign policy decision in the entire US history.

And things are going to get worse. The legislative reforms promoted by AIPAC point toward a surrender of sovereignty to Israel. Initiatives of this kind remind me of the bilateral mutual defense assistance treaties that ultimately led to World War I.

 

[Homajon]

As if it was not known before

 

[Arash]

Many pigs sent ta semitic hell last night:

Please don't compare t

Good
Sink it.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Domestic context: current UK PM resigned a few weeks ago, and has no real mandate to order anything until the next PM is selected through leadership contest.

More posturing from an impotent loser (Starmer).

 

[Professor Jiang]

note which countries sent high level political delegations: Armenia, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, China, Russia, Iraqi Kurdistan

and which countries did not: Azerbaijan, UAE, Jordan, Bahrain, Kuwait, all European countries

Genuinely shocked at Bosnia not being there. They'd not exist today if it weren't for the IRGC.

 

[hussain0216]

When your domestic politics/lobbies become your foreign policy then all kind of irrational decisions are to be expected. India and America are good examples of that. In case of America, the lobbies have caused incalculable damage to America's standing in the Middle East.
I believe I had said on PDF before: Israel is going to bring down America along with Israel. And I think that point is nearby unless there is drastic course correction in America. Drastic!

Absolutely

The U.S could have been a light of the world
Democracy, human rights, freedom


And the Zionists and lobbies have dragged it into conflict after conflict and utterly destroyed its moral fibre and standing

Once you get soaked in the blood of genocide, you will never be free

Not the Jews, not the Americans

 

[hussain0216]

note which countries sent high level political delegations: Armenia, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, China, Russia, Iraqi Kurdistan

and which countries did not: Azerbaijan, UAE, Jordan, Bahrain, Kuwait, all European countries

When you hear revolutionary talk, about islam, the people, the international Zionist order and cabal

It sometimes goes in one ear and out the other, because it sounds like crazy conspiracy


But when you go through a period of history and you see with your own eyes the games and machinations and plots of multiple states
The justification for genocide and massacre
The gas lighting and accusations of extremism


You realise OMG, Khomanei was RIGHT




We better start putting aside differences and getting prepared for this enemy, before they infect us

Already countries like UAE are selling their souls to be part of the Zionists club rather then fight back

 

[Nawnaw1]

Pure nonsense. I will eat my hat if that ever happens. People need to be able to see through the bs.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

No. I am not certain. Please read my post again: As long as both Trump and Netanyahu sit in their respective offices at the same time, one can't rule out another war, although I think that's unlikely. The only near certainty I have is if Vance becomes the POTUS today then we will see a quick wrap up.
This is a personal war waged by two leaders: Netanyahu and Trump. This combination is the last one and this is the last chance for Israel.

Well my brother, that's a big climb down from what you said earlier:

Problem with people like you is that no matter the evidence, you keep repeating your predictions. Analysts after analysts are saying that this war is a major debacle for America. I'd add to that if indeed the Petro Dollar is doomed then, yes, a strategic defeat of America. ...​

Even popular Indian propagandists like Pravin Sawney keeps preaching to the gullible Pakistani listeners that:

• Pakistan is so powerful after Operation Sindoor that Pakistan can restart the war from October 2025 onwards.
• Pakistani Kashmir is "Pakistan Occupied Kashmir" but Indian Kashmir is "Indian Kashmir" (apparently not occupied by 700,000 Indian soldiers).
• Pakistan is a constant daily terrorist threat to India (doesn't mention Indian support for terrorists in Pakistan which has cost Pakistan $150 billion in economic losses).
• Kashmiri people in Indian Occupied Kashmir believe Cartoon-e-Azam Imran khan is their true saviour (even though India annexed Kashmir after 70-years under his premiership).
• Obsessed with the mention of Asim Munir (what a great guy, a true leader of Pakistan).

That's an example of a propagandist feeding misinformation to Pakistani people in the hope we make stupid mistakes so opportunist India can take advantage of us.

Americans and the Europeans just do that sort of propaganda on a much more grandeur scale. Remember how big and powerful Iraq was once upon a time? Now, it's just a failed state after couple of wars.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Sounds like you and @ShapurII should get to know each other, because you're obviously in denial that US and Israel failed in their operation against Iran, I mean, even the majority of Americans and Israel is accept this. wait till US and Israel expose the extent of the damages they received from Iran, I guess by then your denial will wear off.

That's a strange argument.

• We will be able to confirm US/Israeli defeat when "extent of the damages" to their facilities are revealed.
• We should ignore the extent of the damages in Iran (apparently $300 billion), and call it a victory.

That's like saying Iran is already a recognised donkey which is used to receiving beatings but beating US/Israel (extent of the damages) will reveal they are now the bigger donkeys.

What happened here?

• No one can attack Iran to being attacked twice by two countries in two years.
• Iran can and will acquire nukes between two weeks to a maximum period of six months.
• We have the Axis of Resistance, baby.
• Hezbollah, help! Houthis help! Popular Resistance, help! Save your country Iran!

Iranian nationalists and their supporters keep reminding us that Iran fought an eight-year long war with Iraq. Not sure why they keep forgetting that the US has fought wars for much longer periods.

• US-Vietnam War - 19 years.
• US-Afghanistan War - 20 years.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

If NETENYAHU convince Trump to reignite the war
.. the destroy the wall , that wall ain't holy for no Muslim and anyone trying to convince is pakka yahoodi...
DESTROYING THE WALL WILL
1. TURN NETENYAHU AND HIS MINIONS INTO GREATEST TRAGEDY FOR JEWS RATHER THAN A HERO.JEWS WIL CRY AND CURSE NETENYAHU FOR EVER AND EVER AS THE GREATEST BEAST.
2. NO MORE KISSING THE WALL AND FORCING OTHERS TO KISS IT .. WALL GONE NO MORE KISSING.
3. THIS WALL SHALL DROWN AND HURT ALL THE ZIONIST NO MATTER WHERE THEY EXIST... MIAMONIDIDIES WILL TURN OVER IN HIS GRAVE CURSING RAMBAM...
4. I will GET TO SEE THE TRAITOR MIKE HUCKBEE CRY LIKE HIS MOTHER DIED. FUKER FORGOT ISRAEL ONLY CAME IN 1948 WHILE LINCOLN AND GW WASHINGTON HAD NO IDEA OF THAT BASTARD NATION THAT MIKE HUCKBEE IS CURRENTLY RESIDING IN.
DESTROY THE DAMN WALL
This WALL IS CURSE OF YAHOODA ALWAYS OUT FOR BROTHERS BLOOD AND WORST OF ALL THE BROTHERS WHO SUGGESTED TO KILL PROPHET JOSEPH JUST LIKE MARK OF CAIN except THIS WALL IS ALLOWED TO BE DESTROYED IT WILL BE DESTROYED. INSHALLAH

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

"Iran's late supreme leader received a burial confirming and recognizing Iran's rise to the 4th pillar of power in the world, primarily due to a huge US blunder....".

@ShapurII and @Pakistan Space Agency reaction to ^^^^ - "Iran never gained anything from this conflict and the MOU signed after it ended, and US got everything it wanted. What did Iran gain? It's currency has tanked, it's in disarray,US and Israel are preparing to finish Iran..blah blah"

Be realistic buddy.

I come from countries the UK and Pakistan.

• In the UK, we always overestimate our main adversary, Russia, because of its vast size, huge military and its imperial tendencies over Europe.
• In Pakistan we always overestimate our enemy, India, because of its larger size, larger economy and it's Hindu extremist tendancies to invade and conquer South Asia.

Iranians getting bombed left, right and centre with 23,000 airstrikes in just 40 days, and their brainwashed nationalists thinking Iran has been upgraded to a regional power status is baffling, especially since their new Supreme Leader has gone into hiding for 4 months.

 

[Flotilla]

Iranian nationalists and their supporters keep reminding us that Iran fought an eight-year long war with Iraq. Not sure why they keep forgetting that the US has fought wars for much longer periods.

• US-Vietnam War - 19 years.
• US-Afghanistan War - 20 years.

So, why to stop?
Does it means that US can fight Irán for 20 years?
Who will pay your new war?, with another trillion of US debt?.
42 aircrafts destroyed in 40 days, how many in 20 years?
Which country will let US LHD and CVNs to replenish? and their C5/17 aircrafts to refuel?.
How will fight a 20 years war without deploying a single soldier inside Irán?.
That is a ominous lie even yourself don´t believe.