Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

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[PK781]

And things are going to get worse. The legislative reforms promoted by AIPAC point toward a surrender of sovereignty to Israel. Initiatives of this kind remind me of the bilateral mutual defense assistance treaties that ultimately led to World War I.

thats their plan to takeover american military and use it for the destruction of the middle east (europe/nato will be strongarmed into it as well), and that will finally lead to the downfall of the 'great american empire'.........perhaps each state will become a country or whatever.....

Remember, for the zions to rise their israel as #1, they have to REMOVE america first.
They don't give a damn what happens to USA as long as Israel is standing tall.

late 2026 to 2027 seem appropriate timelines......WAR will return the zions will make sure. They aint giving up just yet. As long as the american military is still strong in its own self, they will use it to their will

 

[Nawnaw1]

Be realistic buddy.

I come from countries the UK and Pakistan.

• In the UK, we always overestimate our main adversary, Russia, because of its vast size, huge military and its imperial tendencies over Europe.
• In Pakistan we always overestimate our enemy, India, because of its larger size, larger economy and it's Hindu extremist tendancies to invade and conquer South Asia.

Iranians getting bombed left, right and centre with 23,000 airstrikes in just 40 days, and their brainwashed nationalists thinking Iran has been upgraded to a regional power status is baffling, especially since their new Supreme Leader has gone into hiding for 4 months.

India would wipe the floor with Pakistan, evidence of your much smaller piece of land and the two wars since independence. Sindoor wasn´t a war, it was a bad thought out 'penal exercise' and they hadn't figured in Pakistan's new modern weaponry provided by China. So don't think India is a little bitty adversary. Maybe they sleep at the beginning like Russia, but if a real protracted war starts, Pakistan would be dismembered.

In any case, let's not talk about a war that won't ever happen.

 

[Nawnaw1]

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They'll be 'involved' by their big mouths only. The EU is fully futureless.

 

[Nawnaw1]

thats their plan to takeover american military and use it for the destruction of the middle east (europe/nato will be strongarmed into it as well), and that will finally lead to the downfall of the 'great american empire'.........perhaps each state will become a country or whatever.....

Remember, for the zions to rise their israel as #1, they have to REMOVE america first.
They don't give a damn what happens to USA as long as Israel is standing tall.

late 2026 to 2027 seem appropriate timelines......WAR will return the zions will make sure. They aint giving up just yet. As long as the american military is still strong in its own self, they will use it to their will

It won't happen. This bill is meant to make secret the billions of aid to the cancer. Americans by now fully hate the entity. Nothing of the sort will happen. Americans won't allow even 1 soldier to step foot into a ground war anywheren, just air and sea and proxies. **** China btw. I hope they get dismembered like a little rabbit. They hold back when others are getting it, while if they helped, the West would collapse a lot sooner and easier.

 

[tsunset]

Europe will never be directly involved, i think they are more intelligent than Trump

They're all at range of K-4 including London and all eastern Europe is at drone range. Their naval defenses are multiple times less effective than the US

 

[Nawnaw1]

Europe will never be directly involved, i think they are more intelligent than Trump

They're all at range of K-4 including London and all eastern Europe is at drone range. Their naval defenses are multiple times less effective than the US

Europe doesn't even have the means to get involved, European people hate war and they're fully invested in against Russia. EU becoming involved is such a joke, it's to cry for.

 

[Meengla]

Leaderships are not duped by foreign propagandists, but people are quite easily.
I hope you haven't forgotten the large scale protests in Iran last year that destabilised the country so much forcing the leadership to make harsh decisions against their own populace.

Honestly, bro, I have lost track of where you and I agree or disagree. But it was strange you brought up India's Pravin Swaheny in your post. A certain Mr. Water is Wet guy in this forum brings up such deflections when losing arguments. Sigh!

Anyway, there is no point projecting our wishes into predictions. In my case, I have held this notion that this is a personal war--not a well thought out war--where a compromised POTUS finally fell to Netanyahu's decades old machinations. I have also said that if Trump has a heart attack today then a Vance POTUS will wrap it up pretty quickly because Vance is not beholden to the pressures and prejudices of Trump. You may call it my 'prediction' and I have said such things before even this war even began.

But while the war has been very destructive to Iran but it is a strategic defeat of Israel and a debacle for America, but not a strategic defeat to America for as long as the Petro Dollar stays.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Vance POTUS will wrap it up pretty quickly because Vance is not beholden to the pressures and prejudices of Trump.

subservience of the american administration to the israelis isn't restricted to just trump. you know that already....

 

[Meengla]

subservience of the american administration to the israelis isn't restricted to just trump. you know that already....

The policies of American Presidents have never been as subservient to Israel as Biden and then Trump 2 Presidencies have been.
Israel may have a strong hold on America through its surrogates in America but that is not an absolute control. America, after all, is a democracy where the two parties want to come to power based on public sentiments, which can't be ignored all the time. AIPAC has seen its candidates defeated even before the Gaza 2023 war and now the Democratic Party is a lost cause for Israel.
Only time will tell and I hold onto my assertion that if Vance becomes the POTUS today, then we will see a rapid de-escalation in this war. Vance didn't have to insult Israel like he did recently but he did--and that's a window to his mindset. He is much younger than the old bigots like Biden and Trump and that matters a lot.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Does it automatically mean Iran can fight the US for 20 years?

It amazes me that kids living elsewhere take liberty with sending American kids to fight wars in foreign lands. Zion assumed the same... that once the US got into a mass casualty event it will pour more men and resources in it... in essence go for the broke for zion.

Who exactly is paying America's $35 trillion debt cutrentky?

US debt is between $39 and $40 trillion with the new debt ceiling of $41 trillion... last time American federal employees and people on snap benefit didn't get pay. Everyone traveling by air had to suffer long TSA lines because of fewer screener.
You think it is a game?

The US can afford to print trillions if they want. That's how mad it is.

Every day American is already facing the heat because of inflation. US can and eventually will inflate away it's debts... who pays for that inflation?

Oh wow.

The US lost over 5,000 helicopters in the Vietnam war, and that's just helicopters.

US is NO LONGER A MANUFACTURING ECONOMY!

Did the US collapse, become a third world country like Iran, was SWIFT and the US dollar replaced?

US DEFAULTED on gold because of Vietnam war and Vietnam had no comparable resources or trade corridors... instead US shut the gold convertibility and brought Britton-woods to an end... it is called Nixon Shock. US forced the OPEC countries to sell their oil ONLY in US dollar to keep the global demand of dollars and became a conduit to export US created inflation to the rest of the world.

No, the US funded another war in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union, invaded Grenada and Panama, military action against Lebanon, Libya and Iran as well as launched covert military campaigns in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala and Honduras,

Instead, US did plaza accords with Japan... and Japan sold it's prosperity to prop up the US economy. The debt only grew from around $900 billion to over $39 trillion today.

That was all in the 1980s. Did the US collapse or turn into some neutral country like Switzerland?

The difference between US and Soviet Union instead... the US could export its debt. Soviets couldn't...
Debt as a currency is an instrument of war on bearer while the issuer keeps generating more. It is why zion has such choke hold on US and world... the know debt and debt based on fiat is the ultimate con!

No again. In the 1990s, it was followed with thr Gulf War, Somalia, Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Rwanda and Afghanistan to name some of the military campaigns. Iran on the other hand was still trying to recover from it's war with Iraq at that time.

Then came through 21st century and the US launched a global war on terror for the next two decades.

The US just added $2 trillion in debt and by the end of this year close to another $2... I'm not talking fiscal years... that on top of refinancing another $10 trillion that the treasury is playing games with in short term notes. At least know what you're talking about. And ... now Japanese are simply unable to buy more... the gulf monarchies eho purchased through vehicles are also not buying. You'll be seeing Bessent play gymnastics.

Did that lead to the US collapsing after spending a trillion dollar and pulling out of Afghanistan in 2021 or did it decide to spend another $188 billion in Ukraine instead?


They're still busy bombing Iran somehow during the cease-fire phase. Why is that buddy since USN tucked tail and left ages ago apparently?

Latest US airstrikes on Iran:
21 June 2026
27 June 2026
28 June 2026

Instead the onus is on the aggressor to follow through on its agenda. But that has shifted to opening Hormuz instead. The Iran expedition has been the most expensive in entire US history. The real costs will be known by next budget cycle... as this cycles through the system. The replacement of existing equipment cannot be done in yesterday's dollars either.

What's the latest on Iran's invasion of Israel by the way?

Zion invaded Iran! Just like the rest of your monologue... the whole thing is lopsided.

I am sure Iranian warships are now smooth sailing through the Persian Gulf, Red Sea and the Suez Canal.

Donald Trump must be hiding for 4 months fearing for his life.


Were you born on or after 9 April 2026 by any chance? You don't appear to know much about US military history.

Was Iran ever a naval power? Air force? Things that people work up in their minds to ridicule themselves... check the dates of Iranian air force and naval ships. Second, not only that Iran is not a super power... it did not attack US. There is no there, there... one that you have construed to cope. Orange could certainly use you on his truth social... because as delusional a rhetoric he posts sometimes he certainly lags behind yours!

 

[ParthianLord]

Netanyahu hits back at Vance: 'My Facebook is flooded with support from India'

Netanyahu says he respects the US vice president but does not agree with everything he says, while calling Trump Israel’s greatest White House friend

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"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responded Sunday night to Vice President JD Vance’s criticism and his warning about declining support for Israel, saying in an interview with Fox News that he respects Vance but does not agree with everything he says."

 

[Homajon]

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[Yasser76]

Netanyahu hits back at Vance: 'My Facebook is flooded with support from India'

Netanyahu says he respects the US vice president but does not agree with everything he says, while calling Trump Israel’s greatest White House friend

www.ynetnews.com

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responded Sunday night to Vice President JD Vance’s criticism and his warning about declining support for Israel, saying in an interview with Fox News that he respects Vance but does not agree with everything he says."

Yeah, that really is not quite the win Bibi thinks it is.....

 

[ParthianLord]

Yeah, that really is not quite the win Bibi thinks it is.....

Netanyahu´s facebook gets flooded with Indian bot accounts spamming pro israel nonsense and he claims thats evidence "How popular israel is" ..