Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Raj-Hindustani]

Not again. This is so frustrating.

Another unnecessary war, imposed by the USA. It's ordinary people who end up paying the highest price for this.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

IF Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Lebanon had nuclear weapons they wouldn't turn into failed states

I consider governments and militaries (including Iranian one) without thermo-nuclear weapons and ICBMs already as failed states, for not having counter-genocide answers. So they were failed states in advance.

 

[Psyko70]

Trump wants this war to escalate ? Yemen about to get hot too. Feels like ww 2 where negotiations in poland then france but war kept growing.

 

[BHAN85]

USA is going to fvck Hormuz strait with the pretext of save Hormuz strait.

Can be so dumb GCC to be fooled by USA plots?

It's a repeation of USA rogue plans in Europe with Ukraine/Russia war.

Damaging allies economies with the pretext of saving them from threats created by USA itself.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

Landed in Hodeidah not Sana’a

Nonetheless, stupid Saudis will face ballistic missile strikes for no reason now

Doubt the Houthi’s will do much other than these usual propaganda statements. Their BM/CM capabilities are severely weakened since their fight with the U.S. and Israel.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

I consider governments and militaries (including Iranian one) without thermo-nuclear weapons and ICBMs already as failed states, for not having counter-genocide answers. So they were failed states in advance.

In the region, only zionist regime has nukes.
Testing nukes openly will give our enemies an opportunity to arm nukes.
Moreover, I am 100% certain that if the US and Israel see Iran as sufficiently weak, they will not hesitate to use tactical nukes against us — and our reformist government has already paved 80% of the way for them.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Doubt the Houthi’s will do much other than these usual propaganda statements. Their BM/CM capabilities are severely weakened since their fight with the U.S. and Israel.

Much easier for them to hit Saudi than Israel

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Mobius]

 

[r3alist]

Wide ranging strikes by the US

I don’t understand why IRGC continues with ‘its you strike then I strike’ mentality. Fill the skies with drones and missiles and confuse the enemy.

My guess is considerations on controlling escalation ladder, because longevity of war harms the collective GCC and West more than they can stomach. Also you cannot let things go out of hand, India and Pakistan followed a similar pattern for those few days

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

This hambuger eating pig, like Lind-gay graham, thinks he will live on forever. He has still a lot of fantasies, defeating Iran, Cuba, conquering Greenland, taxing Hormuz, but the clock is ticking as well, he has 2,5 years to go.

Hopefully we'll see a 3 month blockade of Hormuz and Bab-al-Mandab to destroy his second term and weaken USA.

 

[Pakistan First]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

The negotiations were going on, Blockade on Iranian ports was lifted, Iran was already negotiating for sanctions relief and possibly assets to be unfrozen. But attacking the commercial ships changed everything.

More importantly, Iran had all the support from the world (atleast overwhelming public support even from the western countries) because Iran was attacked unprovoked and Iran was only defending itself. But attacking commercial ships during ceasefire is not "defending itself". World and its people hate to see oil prices going up because of Iran trying to control international waterway. After these attacks many NATO countries condemn Iran. UK proscribed IRGC as terror organisation. NATO also says US had every right to respond. Its same NATO which declined to participate in US/Israel war and Trump was furious on it.

Also if war prolongs then Iran has already played all its cards, there's nothing much left to play. While US can bring more and more assets. US knows Iran do not have any air power or naval power. US warships are simply immune to Iranian coastal missiles.

IMHO, Iran should have taken the ceasefire / MoU as a victory and should have avoided hitting commercial ships. It needed time and money to build its capabilities before restarting the war.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

Will you accept paying the Americans a 20% toll versus a 1-2% toll that the Iranians are asking for?

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Honestly, It was a mistake by Iran by hitting commercial ships just because they used different route in SOH. Nobody would accept Iran tolling the straits anyways. They would rather accept the strait to be closed but never to be in control of Iran and paying it for passage.

The negotiations were going on, Blockade on Iranian ports was lifted, Iran was already negotiating for sanctions relief and possibly assets to be unfrozen. But attacking the commercial ships changed everything.

More importantly, Iran had all the support from the world (atleast overwhelming public support even from the western countries) because Iran was attacked unprovoked and Iran was only defending itself. But attacking commercial ships during ceasefire is not "defending itself". World and its people hate to see oil prices going up because of Iran trying to control international waterway. After these attacks many NATO countries condemn Iran. UK proscribed IRGC as terror organisation. NATO also says US had every right to respond. Its same NATO which declined to participate in US/Israel war and Trump was furious on it.

Also if war prolongs then Iran has already played all its cards, there's nothing much left to play. While US can bring more and more assets. US knows Iran do not have any air power or naval power. US warships are simply immune to Iranian coastal missiles.

IMHO, Iran should have taken the ceasefire / MoU as a victory and should have avoided hitting commercial ships. It needed time and money to build its capabilities before restarting the war.

Agreements/MOU's with west are fake and void, no western country follows any agreement. North-Korea and Russia know this. Only way to exit the deadlock with west is thermo-nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and Hypersonic ICBMs.