JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

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[ghazi52]

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[MasterChief]

So we sent 1 full sq to KSA, and now we are short 1 sq... and no means to replace the numbers? KSA better pay for 1-2 J-10CE sq.

Is there any plans to add more block-3's into PAF ? or PAC is working on block-4 ? or whatever PSX is...

After the initial 23 or so Block III aircraft there is no further update.

Likely no more production at all and money diverted to J10 for now.

Or there is ongoing production but with very tight control of information...... however this is least likely as keeping multiple new aircraft away from public eye will prove difficult.

 

[Yasser76]

Seeing many Pakistanis of this forum, one has to wonder why Azerbaijani government has embarked on an alliance with Pakistan.

Make no mistake, the JF-17 purchase was first and foremost a political purchase. There is no reason to go for JF-17 when J-10 exists. Uzbekistan, a country with much smaller defence budget has bought J-10CE. Yet we go and pay billions to Pakistan, for reasons unknown to me.

And for what? A country that is *** kissing Persian fascists? Look at this forum.

No one is ass kissing Persians, but no one like Israeli and US hegemony either, this is not the right thread for this debate my friend. People here respect Azeri people greatly, they stood by Pakistan against India, when Iran was silent......

 

[maxpane]

Seeing many Pakistanis of this forum, one has to wonder why Azerbaijani government has embarked on an alliance with Pakistan.

Make no mistake, the JF-17 purchase was first and foremost political. There is no reason to go for JF-17 when J-10 exists. Uzbekistan, a country with much smaller defence budget has bought J-10CE. Yet we go and pay billions to Pakistan, for reasons unknown to me.

And for what? A country that is *** kissing Persian fascists? Look at this forum.

you can find reasonable people too. so dnt believe what you are seeing.You cannot generalize because of some bunch .

 

[Yasser76]

I wish I could show this forum and Pakistanis on twitter etc to those pilots, to Azerbaijani officials etc who think Pakistanis are "brotherly".

Imagine making an entire military-political decision, spending so much money and think you have an alliance with people who tear up their *** for a bunch of fascists that threaten to erase your country.

I disagree brother, you will find great respect for Azeris by Pakistanis on here

 

[Qaraca]

you can find reasonable people too. so dnt believe what you are seeing.You cannot generalize because of some bunch .

The problem is that the admin who runs this place @Musings is not reasonable at all.

This user Arash has posted this kind of stuff many times, all Persian members on this forum has insulted Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis, Israel is an excuse, they have ethnic hate. If Israel wasn’t an excuse, they wouldn’t have supported Armenian claims against Azerbaijan (very two-faced bunch who claim to be defenders of Muslims).

Your admins never ban these people, and evidenly allow this behavior.

During and after this war , à few things will have to be settlers once and for all
- official test of a nuke
- rearmament with focus on Fighter jets , air defences and SSM
- finish (ruin) the UAE
- annex Kuwait
- annex Bahrain
- grab territories in AzerGayjan or bomb its presidential palace once for good measure

 

[maxpane]

The problem is that the admin who runs this place @Musings is not reasonable at all.

This user Arash has posted this kind of stuff many times, all Persian members on this forum has insulted Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis, Israel is an excuse, they have ethnic hate. If Israel wasn’t an excuse, they wouldn’t have supported Armenian claims against Azerbaijan (very two-faced bunch who claim to be defenders of Muslims). You will notice that their hate for Azerbaijan also exceeds their hate for Arab countries.

Your admins never ban these people, and evidenly allow this behavior.

i get it. sometimes i feel the same . you cant imagine how we feel when some put iran and afganistan's interest ahead of Pakistan while being Pakistani. hope you get it what i am saying

 

[hussain0216]

I don’t. I don’t think I will participate in this forum anymore.

What purpose do this forum serve anyway at this point?

A couple of points, people of Pakistan like Azerbaijan, we consider it a friend and ally and when the time came we helped each other and will continue to do so

No one is picking iran over Azerbaijan, it's just that we hate Zionists and are sick and tired of U.S chaos in the middle east and rather then seeing another Muslim country attacked we are just happy they are fighting back


Also the JF17 has its own advantages, not only is it a great fit for a Azerbaijan sized country
The big advantage over the J10 and any other current platform, is Azerbaijans ability to pick a weapons package outside of just Chinese weapons, this freedom no other platform can give and is vital for Azerbaijan

Pakistan and Azerbaijan will continue to have superb relations and hopefully Iran would be on better terms with the rest of the middle east also

 

[Starlord]

@Arash

As for the Iranian thread, I think you can do 2 + 2 and understand that your little mod would simply ban me anyway. Or the admins of this forum. Meanwhile qurumsaqs like you have free reign.

You Persians talk too big for a people who owe their existence to an Azerbaijani from Ardabil. May God curse Shah Ismail and whole Safaviyya, btw.

This is JF-17 thread, if you have a issue then go to GHQ... stop acting like a child here, there are people who support Iran, and others support America and GCC, due to various reasons from logic to secterianism.

 

[Trailer23]

What will Armenia buy to balance the JF17?

If you ever had the displeasure of visiting any of Indian (Military) Forums, you see the obvious crap...

Indian s be like:
1. We have to arm our Armenian friends with TEJAs.
- M.C. - Phlay khood tou induct kar lain.
2. We should give them some of our Su-30MKi's to counter Azerbaijan
3. We should give BrahMos to Armenia (for FREE).

 

[gamaji]

Ay gədə, Azerbaijan is bankrolling your PAC for reasons unknown to me. That was the entire point. Your "JF-17" is very relevant here. I’m asking why.

Who is acting like child here?

Bro, take it easy. You, me, and all others here are talking on a public forum. You see all kinds of people having very divergent views on PDF. Whatever is said here is merely personal opinions. Please learn to live with it.

As for your question on Thunders for Azerbaijan, the officials of both countries certainly know better than what we know. They have state resources on their disposal and they see a bigger picture. What we all know that people of Pakistan have great love and respect for Azerbaijan and it was same case even before May 2025 (when Azerbaijan and Turkiye practically came out in military support for Pakistan). Both countries have shared strategic interests. People of both countries have shown great love for each other. Let's be happy for that rather than tangling ourselves with petty issues.

 

[Oscar]

If you have not reported an offensive post - please do not bring it up on an unrelated thread. No nationality is immune on what is at the end a Pakistani forum and the last call remains with overall forum admin.

However to assume moderation is some 24/7 role for people who have lives while consistently bad mouthing the forum, Pakistan and so on because a specific post was not handed AND you did not even use the right channels speaks to one’s own insecurities and frankly pure immaturity.

If this forum is meaningless -anyone posting offensive commentary within it should not be offensive in the first place.

If you have complaints against missed moderation there is the GHQ channel.
If you have concerns why your government purchases what from so and so - maybe use your government channels or vote.

People can support Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Cambodia for that matter.
That is NOT the official policy of the state nor this forum.

Nor is it the policy of this forum to force people to wave any flag whatsoever.

Even Facebook with its billions in “moderation” centers in India and near constant AI censorship cant control it all and here people expect a handful of humans across multiple time zones who take time from their daily lives in which YOU ARE NOT A PRIORITY compared to their livelihoods, families and general living - to be on beck and call because you cannot control your emotions on an interaction involving 1’s and 0’s.

 

[gamaji]

You got offended by that? How shall one describe it then?

We and Turks are one and same ethnicity and speak the same language. That is a mutual feeling. I’m sure there exists same bond between Pakistanis and Iranians.

You jumped here without knowing any context. It’s not about who you support.

Again, this forum is extremely low quality. A forum where a member can type "AzerGayjan" repeteadly and get away with it cannot be anything else. Hence, I’m acting like this now, yes. Because I see that is how you are supposed to act, apparently.

Bro, I agree with you. Writing that disgraceful word is extremely offending and that poster should have been banned at least for that thread.

However, I feel there are different moderators, including international moderators, responsible for different threads. I have personal experience on one of the Iran related threads that has an Iranian moderator. That guy has thread banned me at least five times, sending an email for only two of those five bans to tell me the reason. And he lied in those emails too. The emails talked about the warnings (calling it as my first warning) and telling me I would be banned if I got three warnings. But the dude banned me along with that first warning. Other three bans were cowardly silent bans without even sending an email.

So, the point is there may be Iranian moderators too for different threads. That kind of rogue behavior is not unexpected. Like me, please just bear with that.

 

[Oscar]

Bro, I agree with you. Writing that disgraceful word is extremely offending and that poster should have been banned at least for that thread.

However, I feel there are different moderators, including international moderators, responsible for different threads. I have personal experience on one of the Iran related threads that has an Iranian moderator. That guy has thread banned me at least five times, sending an email for only two of those five bans to tell me the reason. And he lied in those emails too. The emails talked about the warnings (calling it as my first warning) and telling me I would be banned if I got three warnings. But the dude banned me along with that first warning. Other three bans were cowardly silent bans without even sending an email.

So, the point is there may be Iranian moderators too for different threads. That kind of rogue behavior is not unexpected. Like me, please just bear with that.

Did you raise it in GHQ?
If so - where is the thread for that and the conversation?