Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Desert]

Topic guys…………….

My fault , it's just i had to point somethings ..

 

[Watandar]

I would love to see this very short term the Saudis had with their experience last time will they send hundreds of thousands of troops perhaps with a few allies that owe them greatly financially Houthis are beasts and perhaps this is to spread peoples defenses even more so Houthis won’t hesitate to unleash everything they have against a land invasion I think this may actually become very worrisome for trump only a few short months and if the Houthis shut it down altogether everyone is going to see something totally different than what they expected…..kind of disappointed Iran didn’t hit Israel but I still say they are fine tuning their strikes when it does happen those new improved missiles are going to connect @Immortals owe you a meal if you ever do come to Florida

 

[krash]

I find myself agreeing with much of what you say but why perpetuate several outright lies amidst a wave of hard but necessary truths?

As I said to you before, Tel Aviv chose to breach the terms of the Islamabad MoU. We can speculate on whether this was always Tel Aviv's insidious plan or whether it was a spur of the moment incident but that makes no difference.

Iran rightly draws criticism for her strategy and tactics and probably also her poor sense of geopolitical timing, but to summarily blame Iran for this conflagration is not based in reality.

Not pathetic is he who claims lies yet does not point them out.

My post was not about this issue and I don't believe it will help you anymore than it did before. Our approaches are diametrically opposed; what Iran should do Vs where to appropriate the blame in order to placate my infantile sensibilities and justify Iran shooting itself in the foot. Yeah, Israel breached the MOU (Who was arguing against that?). Now what? Not attack third-party commercial vessels, let Lebanon be bombed while using the MOU to pressure the US into stopping it, and take what you've won? Or much more wisely attack third-party commercial vessels, lose everything you've gained, scrap the MOU that was your win, and start getting bombed alongside Lebanon with impunity?

You can continue to blame Israel for what they indeed did and placate yourself, but what does it take away from the fact that what Iran did was foolish, gained it nothing, and continues to result in its losses. Again, only if you still want to pretend that explicit Iranian statements that their attack was about the Strait and not Lebanon do not exist.

 

[Desert]

israeli army denies it targeted Egyptian Damietta port.

 

[ShapurII]

Firstly , you shouldn't just (HEAR) what people say, you need to go and see with your own eyes (that's about radicals comment and ramala)

secondly, about ppl in Gaza celebrating the Egyptian team , well you need to know something also , most of gaza people are HUGE supports of Al-Ahly and Zamalek ( Egyptian teams) and they had official Supporters Association of those 2 teams in gaza before the war , let me show you some photos.

and that's a video of Al-ahly supporters association in gaza



Why you people gave that match (Egypt vs Iran) a big deal ?

Of all the places on earth that I would visit some day, Palestine and Israel will be the next after the last. The only reason I am talking to this particular person is because we chatted online for years and now we're friends.

You're missing the point, which is very clear to me They supported Egypt AGAINST Iran. You couldn't find even a single Iranian flag there. And there was nothing to celebrate. Egypt got a draw, it didn't win the match. That's no reason for celebration. Even if it's your own country, let alone a different country. Did we celebrate when Iran drew against Belgium in Iran? No. Anyway, we're off-topic. I believe you have understood my point of view clearly.

 

[tsunset]

If Iran liberates Palestine with ground forces and dismantle Israel and give it back to Palestine for free, Palestinians will say that Egypt, Turkey and UAE were their saviors and that Iran is part of a conspiracy working with Israel

 

[Desert]

And Aragachi denies it was Iran who targeted Damietta port in Egypt and accuses israel...
So both Iran and israel deny it

 

[Desert]

look at the sneaky Arabiya channel ( belongs to Saudis) they try to drag Egypt into a war against Iran (look at the woman face lol)
an interview with the Egyptian press minister (about the Damietta attack),.
The minster tells her : has iran (ever before ) denied any attack on gulf countries , ? No.
Did Iran deny the attack on (Egypt) ? Yes.

 

[Shags101]

look at the sneaky Arabiya channel ( belongs to Saudis) they try to drag Egypt into a war against Iran (look at the woman face lol)
an interview with the Egyptian press minister (about the Damietta attack),.
The minster tells her : has iran (ever before ) denied any attack on gulf countries , ? No.
Did Iran deny the attack on (Egypt) ? Yes.

Technically it wasn’t Iran so yeah they are telling the truth was it the Houthis odds are it was having exact information about a us ship probably came from Iran

 

[MS Sandhu]

Why Muslims do not create coalition s against zionisme?

At least other Muslim nations have not handed over rockets to Hamas that led to massacre of Palestinians.
You keep poking the bear despite the fact that you got no ability to contain that bear.

 

[ShapurII]

At least other Muslim nations have not handed over rockets to Hamas that led to massacre of Palestinians.
You keep poking the bear despite the fact that you got no ability to contain that bear.

If I give you a knife to defend yourself from a rapist, and you attack the rapist pre-emptively, is it my fault for helping you to defend yourself or is it your own stupidity?

 

[Watandar]

At least other Muslim nations have not handed over rockets to Hamas that led to massacre of Palestinians.
You keep poking the bear despite the fact that you got no ability to contain that bear.

Israel has been massacring and expelling Palestinians long before there was any group called Hamas. And it will continue doing so regardless of whether you resist or surrender, because it sees the Middle East as God-given land and the Muslims/Christians as squatters.

You confuse aggressor and victim, so that you have an excuse to just spectate.

 

[kobra]

If Iran liberates Palestine with ground forces and dismantle Israel and give it back to Palestine for free, Palestinians will say that Egypt, Turkey and UAE were their saviors and that Iran is part of a conspiracy working with Israel

Hamas leadership knew iran's role and always proudly mentioned and acknowledged it. Sadly they all are martyred.. knew leadership has agreed to much of peace board (israils) demand and soon ita going to be like west bank..

Anyways they didnt have any options left. Leadership and fighters killed, ammuntion finished, whole infrastructure finished. Merciless killing yet no one came to help from region. Whole world watched the genocide.

All those pet cucks are joining MBS now to target houthis yet no one gave two cents about Gaza, including hypocrite Erdguan.

Hzb and iran suffered massively and is at verge of collapse due to gaza war. Suffering of Gazans should end nowm

 

[Master Chief]

My post was not about this issue and I don't believe it will help you anymore than it did before. Our approaches are diametrically opposed; what Iran should do Vs where to appropriate the blame in order to placate my infantile sensibilities and justify Iran shooting itself in the foot. Yeah, Israel breached the MOU (Who was arguing against that?).

"You had an off ramp and a pretty sweet deal. YOU DIDN'T TAKE IT and are now complaining that others are implementing measures to protect their own interests which you have been hurting throughout this time?"

Iran did take the deal. Israel didn't.

You and I can argue about what is sensible and what isn't until the cows come home and you will undoubtedly find a spectrum of opinions on this very thread regarding that.

I simply pointed out the events that brought us all to this juncture. Israel made a choice, which, ipso facto, was a material breach of terms and conditions of a ratified agreement.

The fundamental premise of your case is flawed.

Of course, I do understand why you have made the claim, as it is far easier to roundly condemn Iran if it can be demonstrated that she herself chose to be in this position. The facts of the matter continue to contradict your premise.

 

[kobra]

At least other Muslim nations have not handed over rockets to Hamas that led to massacre of Palestinians.
You keep poking the bear despite the fact that you got no ability to contain that bear.

What a pathetic dishonouable cuck stance. Disgusting.