Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[VCheng]

Israel does not want a ceasefire nor care about the hostages. They want to maximize the amount of casualties. Hamas already has stated they will release the hostages when Israel releases the hostages in Israeli jails and a guarantee of a permanent ceasefire.

Let’s stop the cap.

Such steps must be simultaneous to be effective. What you have said above about Israel is exactly what Israel says about Hamas.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Western media are disgusting

 

[LeonBlack08]

The bastards are slaughtering children waiting for food and water in designated places for people to line up for. I saw a horrific video circulating of children randomly being shot - clearly NOT Hamas. You will get a response - there will always be a response as long as there is an occupier.
Your post suggests it’s about hostages - it’s not.
Hamas ( not the sharpest tool in the box ) gave them an excuse to commit genocide and they sure took it. I really can’t see with all the bombing how there is any hostages left.
Genocide - collective punishment - war crimes and war crimes - you are going to get a response - even if it’s a rocket or random shooter.

While Hamas did not follow Islamic rules of engagement by killing civilians (although to what extent they caused civilian casualty is still debatable), which cannot absolutely be condoned; they did not have much of an option left either.

If they hadn't made a radical move like this - the Saudis would have normalized relations with Israel and effectively ensuring no chance of a future Palestinian state. The settlers had already stepped up their land grabbing in recent years anyway. Soon, there would be no West Bank or Gaza.

People following Western narrative conveniently forget that this did not start on Oct 7. For example this article from June 2023 from a leftist Israeli News outlet Hareetz -

Adam, Fuad, Abdullah, Omar: The 28 Palestinian Kids Killed by Israeli Forces This Year (As of June 2023 - long before Oct 7)

"In Gaza, 5-year-old Tamim died of fear, literally, during an airstrike. In the West Bank, Mustafa was shot in the heart after he and his friends threw stones at soldiers 50 meters away"

Adam, Fuad, Abdullah, Omar: the 28 Palestinian kids killed by Israeli forces this year | Opinion

In Gaza, 5-year-old Tamim Died of Fear, Literally, During an Airstrike. In the West Bank, Mustafa Was Shot in the Heart After He and His Friends Threw Stones at Soldiers 50 Meters Away

www.haaretz.com

Israelis knew if you keep on oppressing the Palestinians, they will eventually respond. Israel slowly pushed Hamas to commit something like Oct 7, so that they can use that as a pretext to invade and permanently occupy Gaza. Hamas unwillingly got played by the Zionist plan.

 

[Falcon29]

Are we heading towards a regional escalation with this string of killings of Hezbollah commaders?

It's not in Hezbollah's interest but it is in Hamas's interest. Israel and the alliance behind it are savvy. They commit these string of killings then go out and say they prefer a diplomatic solution to the situation in the north. Once the time is right we don't know what will happen. Arabs and Muslims are ruled by hypocrites and/or afraid of taking the initiative. If that's the case then we can expect gays and transgenders in the region in next five years. And return of polytheism and more. People aren't grateful to God and rejecting his commandments and mercy.

 

[The SC]

Such steps must be simultaneous to be effective. What you have said above about Israel is exactly what Israel says about Hamas.

But who is the occupier and who is the occupied.. you can't equal them in any equation..

 

[Unknowntruth]

Such steps must be simultaneous to be effective. What you have said above about Israel is exactly what Israel says about Hamas.

That is false, Israel is using the hostages as an excuse to commit genocide. It has repeatedly rejected a permanent ceasefire with the release of hostages and the hostages in Israeli jails. Its stated goal is the complete destruction of Hamas.

 

[VCheng]

But who is the occupier and who is the occupied.. you can't equal them in any equation..

What matters right now is to stop the killing and suffering of an innocent and vulnerable population. Everyone can argue about who is to be labeled what later once famine has been averted. Please get your priorities in order.

 

[VCheng]

Its stated goal is the complete destruction of Hamas.

And Hamas has a stated goal of the destruction of Israel.

Clearly both sides see this conflict as an existential issue for themselves and are fighting using all resources available to each side. The population is caught in the middle and paying a horrific price.

 

[The SC]

While Hamas did not follow Islamic rules of engagement by killing civilians (although to what extent they caused civilian casualty is still debatable), which cannot absolutely be condoned; they did not have much of an option left either.

If they hadn't made a radical move like this - the Saudis would have normalized relations with Israel and effectively ensuring no chance of a future Palestinian state. The settlers had already stepped up their land grabbing in recent years anyway. Soon, there would be no West Bank or Gaza.

People following Western narrative conveniently forget that this did not start on Oct 7. For example this article from June 2023 from a leftist Israeli News outlet Hareetz -

Adam, Fuad, Abdullah, Omar: The 28 Palestinian Kids Killed by Israeli Forces This Year (As of June 2023 - long before Oct 7)

"In Gaza, 5-year-old Tamim died of fear, literally, during an airstrike. In the West Bank, Mustafa was shot in the heart after he and his friends threw stones at soldiers 50 meters away"

Adam, Fuad, Abdullah, Omar: the 28 Palestinian kids killed by Israeli forces this year | Opinion

In Gaza, 5-year-old Tamim Died of Fear, Literally, During an Airstrike. In the West Bank, Mustafa Was Shot in the Heart After He and His Friends Threw Stones at Soldiers 50 Meters Away

www.haaretz.com

Israelis knew if you keep on oppressing the Palestinians, they will eventually respond. Israel slowly pushed Hamas to commit something like Oct 7, so that they can use that as a pretext to invade and permanently occupy Gaza. Hamas unwillingly got played by the Zionist plan.

You must be unfamiliar about Saudi Arabia Affairs.. you can google Saudi Arabia and Palestine and see for yourself before posting fallacies..

 

[muhammed45]

Western media are disgusting
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[Unknowntruth]

And Hamas has a stated goal of the destruction of Israel.

Clearly both sides see this conflict as an existential issue for themselves and are fighting using all resources available to each side. The population is caught in the middle and paying a horrific price.

Stop deflecting like I said Hamas has called for a permanent ceasefire which Israel is rejecting as well as releasing hostages from both sides.

It is not going to release the hostages if it does not result in a permanent ceasefire. Israel wants the hostages and continue the genocide.

 

[LeonBlack08]

You must be unfamiliar about Saudi Arabia Affairs.. you can google Saudi Arabia and Palestine and see for yourself before posting fallacies..

Sure, you can believe whatever you want. The facts says otherwise. They had to adjust their tunes after Oct 7.

 

[The SC]

What matters right now is to stop the killing and suffering of an innocent and vulnerable population. Everyone can argue about who is to be labeled what later once famine has been averted. Please get your priorities in order.

You repeat my words in other words.. but you are so arrogant that you want to win an argument..that does not even exist..

 

[VCheng]

Stop deflecting like I said Hamas has called for a permanent ceasefire which Israel is rejecting as well as releasing hostages from both sides.

Hamas is not willing to even tell how many of the hostages are alive and how many are dead, let alone tell anyone who is left alive.

 

[Mobius]

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