Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[IceCold]

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Reminds me of them

 

[digitalSurgeon]

The Palestinians are still drunk from that pathetic, yet laughable pan-Arab kool aid decades ago. Seriously, why are we lifting so much a finger in aiding them when their own Arab brothers refuse to do so? Doesn't that tell you a whole lot about them as a people? Generally speaking, other Arab states consider them a burden and trouble makers. They view Palestinians as a pest that cause trouble where ever they venture and they don't even want to house them because they'll being their troubles along with them. Worse part is, they are still banking on the 'ummah' to magically liberate them, but they refuse to acknowledge the ummah has sold out to the devil long ago. Now what comprises the ummah is tribalism, treachery, envy, greed, ignorance, etc etc. It's a lost cause and the resistance should just give up on appeasing these ingrates. So much lives and money wasted for nothing!

Interesting. Gaza under siege was cleaner than arab nations. India Pakistan etc. to me your argument reeks of western propaganda

 

[kobra]

SO US threatened Syria to attack Hezbollah and they declined
US threatened sanctions on IRaq to attack PMF forces and they declined
US also threaten kurds to attack Iran as well

Only one that worked out so far for US is
Saudi attack on PMF and attack on houthi by saudis but after attacking they wanted to de escalate

looks like US is threatening everyone in the middle east to fight Iran but not working as planned so far.

Jolani will have to deliver otherwise he will be removed/assassinated by his well wishers in Washington and Tel aviv and Some1 else will be brought up.

His killing will be pinned on iran and new leader will begin with the slogan of vengence and we will se them taking on whatever is left of hezbullah and also attacking iraq, obviously with full support of Tel aviv and washington.

 

[ShapurII]

The Palestinians are still drunk from that pathetic, yet laughable pan-Arab kool aid decades ago. Seriously, why are we lifting so much a finger in aiding them when their own Arab brothers refuse to do so? Doesn't that tell you a whole lot about them as a people? Generally speaking, other Arab states consider them a burden and trouble makers. They view Palestinians as a pest that cause trouble where ever they venture and they don't even want to house them because they'll being their troubles along with them. Worse part is, they are still banking on the 'ummah' to magically liberate them, but they refuse to acknowledge the ummah has sold out to the devil long ago. Now what comprises the ummah is tribalism, treachery, envy, greed, ignorance, etc etc. It's a lost cause and the resistance should just give up on appeasing these ingrates. So much lives and money wasted for nothing!

I think we need only one good reason not to support Palestinians and they have already given that reason to us explicitly over the past half century: We do not want Iranian help and we do not like Iranians. What else do we need? Just dump them and let the Israelis take care of them. We have paid enough for their cause and they do not even like us or respect us.

Let's not forget that the Palestinians cherished Saddam's war on Persians and even called Saddam, who wasn't any less evil than Benjamin Netanyahu, "the Arab Lion".

Interesting. Gaza under siege was cleaner than arab nations. India Pakistan etc. to me your argument reeks of western propaganda

They are trouble makers. I'm not saying that to demonize them, but they have caused trouble in countries that hosted them, including Lebanon, Jordan and Syria. And they have been betrayed too, by countries like Jordan and Egypt, for example.

They didn't necessarily do it for evil reasons though. For example, their insurgency in Southern Lebanon was meant to be against Israel to give them parts of West Bank to settle there. But it eventually led to religious tensions in Lebanon and caused a lot of trouble for the Lebanese state, nearly brought them back to the brink of civil war.

In Jordan, their anti-Israel moves by Yasser Arafat eventually led to the Jordanian Civil War. It's called the Black September. Again, Palestinians meant no harm and were focused on fighting Israel, but the damage convinced the Jordanians to kick them out.

In Syria, Palestinians conspired with pro-Western forces against Assad to topple him. That's besides years of riots and other stuff. This was pure betrayal as Assad was the reason that the Palestinian resistance still existed at the time. People can now see how important Syria was for the Axis of Resistance.

 

[Kyussis]

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@Persian Gulf you claimed the Strait of Hormuz is closed?

Who else claimed on here it’s closed?

It’s leaky as hell and the Qalibaf gang is playing you guys for fools. Iran is losing its grip on the strait again.

That is not even 1/10th of what was going through per day before the war and we don't know how much if any was snuck through the south corrider.

 

[ShapurII]

You can thank Solemani, Nasrallah, and Khamenai for re-establishing ties with Hamas after they backstabbed the Axis by siding with terrorist groups in Syria after Assad had given the group so much support for years.

Trust me, if tomorrow Iran gets dragged into a civil war or a ground invasion, or any sort of foreign intervention, for any reason, expect Hamas forces to fight alongside Turkish-backed or Saudi-backed groups.

 

[Kyussis]

Typical. West worshipping "Persians" can't hide their hatred for poor Palestinian Arabs. They are no better than the Zionist who they claim to oppose! You can see it in their posts that they secretly want to see Iran's defeat so that Iran can become de-Arabized ie. no longer Islamic!

 

[Bengal71]

Am just gonna comment on (Rafidhi) word.
i'm sure the only people who call Iranians that are gulf countries.

Whole Sunni world does, the ulama in Bangladesh would describe them as Rafidi when they are angry on them for some reason, other times they would be polite and call them Shia.

 

[Nawnaw1]

That is not even 1/10th of what was going through per day before the war and we don't know how much if any was snuck through the south corrider.

Yeah. It's stupid to think a so called tracking site can accurately track what's going on with all the spoofing etc. Besides, what are the Iranian doomers saying here? That Iran is now too scared to shoot at oil tankers going through the not-allowed corridor?

 

[Nawnaw1]

Typical. West worshipping "Persians" can't hide their hatred for poor Palestinian Arabs. They are no better than the Zionist who they claim to oppose! You can see it in their posts that they secretly want to see Iran's defeat so that Iran can become de-Arabized ie. no longer Islamic!

I'm sad for the Palestinians, as any human is. That being said, it's not Iran's responsibility to help them. Get help from the Arab countries, who's 'brothers' are being killed.

In the end I don't think Iran did much more than symbolic support for the Palestinians. Real help was for Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen. Thankfully.

 

[Flotilla]

Typical. West worshipping "Persians" can't hide their hatred for poor Palestinian Arabs. They are no better than the Zionist who they claim to oppose! You can see it in their posts that they secretly want to see Iran's defeat so that Iran can become de-Arabized ie. no longer Islamic!

Irán has always supported muslim oppressed minorities, from Saharauis to Rohingyas.
I can understand people of Irán tired about this kind of politics.
But that makes Islamic Republic (specifically) admirable from US (FUB) to Japan (many people support Islamic Republic).
I know I am nobody to talk about Iranian internal issues. But I really support the oppressed minorities and specifically Palestinians cause because It is also our issue (European Union).

 

[BHAN85]

That is not even 1/10th of what was going through per day before the war and we don't know how much if any was snuck through the south corrider.

What?

As orientation, whole word consumption is around 100mn barrels per day.

Hormuz strait traffic previous to war was around 20% world consumption, and 40% world oil exports.

So 10mn would be 1/2 of previous to war in worst case.

 

[Nawnaw1]

What?

As orientation, whole word consumption is around 100mn barrels per day.

Hormuz strait traffic previous to war was around 20% world consumption, and 40% world oil exports.

So 10mn would be 1/2 of previous to war in worst case.

If there are actually 11 million barrels going through Hormuz a day, for which I see no evidence, then Hormuz is no longer enforced (for what reason I don't know). Simple as that. That would also mean probably that Iran gets to export oil (if there is an informal short term agreement).

The doomer (Immortals and Sharupill) gloomer version that Iran is scared to enforce it and gets nothing in return, is contrary to what we have seen since February 27 as Iranian actions.

 

[Desert]

Irán has always supported muslim oppressed minorities, from Saharauis to Rohingyas.
I can understand people of Irán tired about this kind of politics.
But that makes Islamic Republic (specifically) admirable from US (FUB) to Japan (many people support Islamic Republic).
I know I am nobody to talk about Iranian internal issues. But I really support the oppressed minorities and specifically Palestinians cause because It is also our issue (European Union).

The EU is going banana on Spain now because of the yesterday flood in Ceuta and Melila .. poor Sanchez , hope he can survive.

 

[Desert]

Whole Sunni world does, the ulama in Bangladesh would describe them as Rafidi when they are angry on them for some reason, other times they would be polite and call them Shia.

I haven't known rafidi word except earlier , not widely used in Egypt.